User talk:CZECH-IN
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You say that the "primary aim" of your editing was "to disseminate information about a company holding a strong market position", and you also say "It was not my intention to edit Wikipedia for purposes of publicity". Can you explain what you see as the difference between editing "to disseminate information about a company" and editing to publicise that company? To me, it looks like another form of words saying the same thing. You also say that "the tone of the text is neutral and factual and, as such, displays no sign of promotion". That is true of much of what you wrote, but that is not the way it seems to me when I see such language as "Being a Core PCO enables the development of a long term relationship with an organization that is based on an in-depth knowledge of the organization's needs". If, as seems likely, you are sincere in seeing your editing as neutral and non-promotional, then it seems that you are unable to see the nature of your own editing, probably because in writing about your comapny you are too close to the subject to be able to stand back and see how your writing will look from the detached viewpoint of an uninvolved outsider. That is, in fact, one of the main reasons why Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest strongly discourges writing about a subject in which one has a close personal involvement. If you can comment on these issues it may help to assess your unblock request. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:07, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- Dear JamesBWatson, first of all I would like to thank you for your reply. Herewith, I am sending you my reply to further open our discussion about my Wikipedia entry.
- Your first comment was about the issue of main purpose of my entry. I do recognize that 'disseminating information' and 'publicizing' are, to some extent, interchangeable, but this does not seem to be in my opinion the case in my entry. I believe there is a distinction between 'disseminating information' in order to 'inform' and 'disseminating information' in order to 'promote/advertise'.
- Moreover, if I wanted to make publicity, Wikipedia would not make the right platform. The potential target audience of CZECH-IN s.r.o. is not likely to consider Wikipedia an eligible source of information when looking for an event organizer. In order to publicize CZECH-IN s.r.o., I am quite sure there are more suitable media such as Prague Convention Bureau (PCB), International Congress and Convention Association (ICCA), International Association of Professional Congress Organisers (IAPCO) websites, etc.
- Furthermore, if every 'disseminating information about a company' was considered as a promotion, there could be no Wikipedia edits about companies whatsoever.
- As far as I can tell, there is no information about CZECH-IN s.r.o. included in the edit that would not be founded on a reliable impartial source of information. If you do not share my sentiment, I am ready to further discuss.
- On the one hand a conflict of interest seems to be a relevant argument, but on the other hand I put a real effort into keeping a neutral tone of the whole edit. Had I failed to do so, it only afflicts very short excerpts of the text. Furthermore, it seems only logical that a historian writes about history, area he knows best. If I have a thorough knowledge of one particular field, I want to make my contributions to this very field. Even if I do not consider myself such an expert in the field of conference management, it is the area I have grown somehow conversant with.
- Wikipedia is supposed to be an open encyclopedia and, to some extent, a moderated discussion. I therefore believe that possible shortcomings can be removed – in a mutual effort – so that everyone concerned could be happy.
- I really want to assure you that I am ready to make amendments to the edit about CZECH-IN s.r.o. so that it complies with the given criteria – my objective from the very beginning. I would also welcome the opportunity to contribute to Wikipedia articles on convention industry. CZECH-IN (talk) 13:01, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- Hello, I would like to offer this solution - change the article, make it shorter, to fulfill your demands.
- The very first paragraph of my article is positively neutral and matter-of-fact. Every detail is supported by a relevant citation. The article is an entirely factual account of the subject, not open to any interpretation.
- The second part (Business activity) only contains a matter-of-fact account of C-IN’s business activities – all of which are corroborated by a reliable source.
- In addition, I put forward a suggestion that the list of services the company provides should be left out and only the last paragraph on C-IN’s membership supported by a reference citation is kept.
- Such adjustments to the edit leaves no room for promotion and there could be no 'appearance of a conflict of interest' whatsoever. COI would make an invalid argument as the edit would contain only factual and neutral statements corroborated by relevant sources. CZECH-IN (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
- Just to avoid any misunderstand, this the offered version of our article, where we believe, that the COI issue is no longer questionable, because of valid, neutral and non promotional information included only.
- CZECH-IN s.r.o. is a Czech limited liability company, the head quarters of which are located in the Prague Congress Centre in Prague, Czech Republic. C-IN, or EUROSERVICE Ltd. as it was called then, was founded in 1993.1) The company adopted the new name CZECH-IN in 2002 and since 2013 it has been operating under the brand name C-IN.2) The company organizes congresses, conferences and other similar events both in the Czech Republic and abroad, especially in Europe. Current shareholders of the company are Ing. Marhoul Petr, Ing. Tomáš Maxa, Peter de Merlier and Aleš Pejsar.3)
- Business activity
- Mainly focusing on the organization of national and international congresses, conferences, seminars and other similar events 4), the company provides services in the field of tourism 5). C-IN acts not only as a PCO (Professional Congress Organizer), i.e. company specializing in all aspects of convention and meeting management 6), but also as a DMC (Destination Management Company), i.e. local event planner providing assistance with a range of services on behalf of the PCO.7)
- Membership
- C-IN is a member of the following organizations:
- IAPCO (International Association of Professional Congress Organizers)8)
- ICCA (International Congress and Convention Association) 9)
- PCB (Prague Convention Bureau)10)
- 1) Trade register, see: http://www.justice.cz, IČ 48582387
- 2) CZECH-IN Desetiletý. TRAVEL TRADE GAZETTE. 6 2012, s. 11. Dostupné online.
- 3) Trade register, see: http://www.justice.cz, IČ 48582387
- 4) http://www.iccaworld.com/newsarchives/archivedetails.cfm?id=3628
- 5) ZEMPLINEROVÁ, Amara. Komunikace je základ. TRAVEL TRADE GAZETTE. 12 2007, s. 3
- 6) R. Davidson, T. Rogers, Marketing Destinations and VenuesforConferences, Conventions and Business Events 2012. ISBN: 113638037X, 9781136380372. s. 14
- 7) R. Davidson, T. Rogers, Marketing Destinations and VenuesforConferences, Conventions and Business Events 2012. ISBN: 113638037X, 9781136380372. s. 15
- 8) http://www.iapco.org/all-about-iapco/council/members/
- 9) http://members.iccaworld.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home&hoofdnav=member&content=mbr.detail&Acode=1073558&searchFields=MEMBERFROM%2CMEMBERTO%2CREGIO%2CCOUNTRY%2CCITY%2CCHAPTER%2CZOEKWORD%2CBLOCKFACTOR%2CSORTEER%2CZOEKEN%2CSHOW%2C&searchValues=_
- 10) http://www.pragueconvention.cz/our-members/organizatori-akci
CZECH-IN (talk) 13:12, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
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