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Hey there

Could you please change the user rights of User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis to include reviewer. She had quite an extensive content creation. mauchoeagle (c) 05:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Want to try giving me that link again? :) Courcelles 05:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I wouldn't give someone with 69 edits any rights, especially not for an account created yesterday. No matter how good her articles—and they do look fine—using the reviewer flag correctly takes more than 9 hours worth of experience with Wikipedia. Courcelles 05:56, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
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My page Sajjad Shaheed-e-Bajaur has been deleted on NOTABILITY reasons. I want to contest this.

My page Sajjad Shaheed-e-Bajaur has been deleted on NOTABILITY reasons. I want to contest this.
My Point of View: The page is about a highly notable K.I.A (Killed In Action) Military Officer of Pakistan Army, Lt. Sajjad Khan, S.Bt (Military) who was posthumously awarded one of Pakistan's national military honour "Sitara-i-Basalat" meaning "Star of Bravery"..... He is widely known among the people of FATA and his notability is no issue as for as a 180 Million strong nation, Pakistan, is concerned...... If every "Tom, Dick and Harry" can be represented by a page on WIKIPEDIA then why not the HERO of a NATION...... The fact can be confirmed from the official website of Pakistan Army' Public Relations wing.... [1] Also see following newspaper pages containing his name in the AWARD list. [2] [3] [4]

After the above discussion, I think I can request you to cancel the deletion and restore the article / page Sajjad Shaheed-e-Bajaur .... Thanx. Debajaur (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)Debajaur

The Sitara-e-Basalat is actually a fairly low-ranking medal in the Pakistani system- only those who have won the country's highest decoration for bravery or held flag rank are considered notable under WP:MILPEOPLE. I'm not really opposed to overturning the speedy and running this through WP:AFD, but my experience says this will be a pointless activity, the award in question is several grades below the level that confers notability, and not really a claim of significance, either. Courcelles 17:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Closing of AN/I

You recently closed a thread on AN/I in which I asked for some Admin action against Hipocrite for a long history of personal attacks, incivility, harassment, and for attempting to find my real identity online, then using that information against me here while simultaneously proving information about me which could out me.

Does this closing mean that no Admin action will be made?LedRush (talk) 03:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

No, feel free to start a new thread that goes into those points. What we had here was too much focus on edits that are now Oversighted, and discussing oversighted edits in a high-traffic forum destroys the purpose of the suppression. AN/I is better focusing on the personal attacks, harassment, and other such matters; this thread had become far too much--almost exclusively--about two suppressed edits, and AN/I is not a competent jurisdiction to discuss that, we suppress things so the information contained in them stops being spread, and AN/I spreads information about as far as possible on this project. Courcelles 03:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
But the Outing, and the research behind it and the use of the information are the most recent issues. I feel the other stuff puts this into context. Are people not disciplined for breach of the Out policy?LedRush (talk) 03:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Also, when I filed this report, the Outing was only one of several things I mentioned, but the other editors latched on to it until, I believe, a consensus was reached that it was an Outing. Two questions: 1. How can I phrase it to include the relevant info but not to allow other editors to hijack the conversation? 2. If consensus was reached that this was an Outing, why is there no Admin action?LedRush (talk) 03:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Really, any thread on ANI is likely to lead back to the same place. Given there are oversighted edits involved, if you really want something done, gather the evidence and send it to ArbCom, because only they are competent to handle matters without spreading your personal information even further. Though I think everyone knows Hipocrite is on thin ice should he come close to crossing the WP:OUTING line again. Courcelles 04:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Is that really the best place for this (meaning, are these types of issues expected to be raised there)? Also, honestly, do you think there is a chance that an Admin will take action if I do bring the issue there (assuming you've read the history of his personal attacks and harassment)?LedRush (talk) 04:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there any way to speed up the process at ?

There have been 4 attempts to out me in the last 24 hours.LedRush (talk) 21:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

  • That's not really the point of the quick check section, so it has been moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yurtengurt. Someone will process it quickly. I consider it highly likely the three new accounts were operated by the same person, but I'm not at all convinced it was Hipocrite- to go from understanding he made a mistake last night to this type of abusive sock-puppetry makes little sense. Note that when an account is blocked, their IP is also blocked for 24 hours in the autoblock, so if this is the same person, they have access to multiple IP addresses. Courcelles 22:11, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Hipocrite never acknowledged that it was wrong to research people's real life IDs and then use that information against them in fact, I believe he defended the actions and alluded to off-WP emails and whatnot. However, unless he knows of a way to circumvent the Wikipedia process for discovering socks, I would be shocked if he is involved given his obvious familiarity with searching for socks. However, I am equally convinced that these three accounts are tied to someone who edits the Murder of Meredith Kercher article and talk page. If you can avoid detection merely by hiding your IP address, I wouldn't be surprised if this was Hipocrite or anyone else from that article.LedRush (talk) 22:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Could you protect my user page and talk page from edits made anyone not autoconfirmed?LedRush (talk) 22:28, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I"ve done your user page indefinitely, and your talk page for ten days, hopefully long enough for this to blow over. Courcelles 22:30, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you.LedRush (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


I was interested in getting the page Silverbolt restored with the new draft in my userspace here: user:Mathewignash/Silverbolt. I'd like your feedback. Mathewignash (talk) 21:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

RFAR Racepacket

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Racepacket/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Racepacket/Workshop.

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Amy Chua

Howdy - I was leery to put two photos from the same event in the article, but the single shot is different from the one with her daughters, just to let you know :-) I thought the single shot was good, but the one with the daughters seems more important for the article. --David Shankbone 12:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, you're right- they are slightly different angles/moments. Shouldn't have missed that. When the article grows, there will be space for three photos, but right now there just isn't, and, I agree the one with her daughters is much better for the Time 100 event. Thanks for pointing out my blunder. Courcelles 20:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

A little humour to brighten up your day

Hehe, heya Courcelles. How're you doing? Seeing as you're burdened with work on Wikipedia, I thought I might give you a gift to brighten up your day:

In all seriousness though, your work as an admin is appreciated, Wikipedia would probably crumble were it not for dedicated users like you :) Hope you're having a great day! Kind regards, —James (TalkContribs)1:18pm 03:18, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Haha... I think I was the one that template was created for! Thank you, James... it's appreciated highly :) Now... get me some Kleenex, since you brought a bloody cat into this room! Courcelles 20:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, sir, right away. /me stumbles out of the room. Here's your Kleenex! I'm not responsible for any reactions you may get, here's my legal waiver ;) —James (TalkContribs)2:25pm 04:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Re Orphaned non-free image File:Vintage Richard Flanagan 2009 Wanting book cover.jpg

Hi Courcelles,

Re this. I'm not particularly concerned about these things getting deleted as apparently they like first edition covers for these book articles (even when they're inferior quality scans), but just wondering, given that the user replacing these is using images flogged from Amazon, whether that is an accepted image source for non-free media? --jjron (talk) 05:49, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

If they can't pass NFCC with it, then, yes, Amazon (or other sales sites) are acceptable places to obtain non-free cover images- and in instances where the publisher doesn't have a website, can be one of the only options. Courcelles 05:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Hmm. So it's pointless actually creating these things - easier just to flog them from somewhere else. Didn't think that was acceptable, but there you go... --jjron (talk) 06:01, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, for most of the things we use under fair-use, it would be impossible to create... and they would still be bound by the copyright of the original work. We can't just take images as we please- the WP:NFCC are really very strict. But if an image is going to meet those, photographing the cover ourselves or borrowing Amazon's image is an identical situation copyright-wise. Courcelles 06:04, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned image

I saw your latest notice at here. The image can be used in Senkaku Islands dispute. But the article has been protected since Feb. 3. That is why the image is an orphan. Now the mediation has been requested. It's not likely some editor would request admins to add the image to the article for now and even if I requested, I'm not sure it could be granted. I think the image should be in the article and the image should be kept. Please let me know what can I do to keep the image. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 06:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You might want to talk to User:Nihonjoe about unprotecting. Three months of full protection is rather a long time. Courcelles 07:23, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it is, but you may also not be familiar with the crazy edit wars which have gone on there over the last several years. I have changed it to semi-protect for editing. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 21:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image

Aberystwyth Town F.C. was vandalised and the crest (File:Aberystwyth Town FC.PNG, see the official site, is the right cresr) has been deleted from the article. Please verify ad remove the tag from the image. I'm an administrator on the Romanian Wiki and I also try to delete the unused images, but I verify first if the article was vandalised, the infobox was renamed etc. Thanks. Ionutzmovie (talk) 07:28, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

There is no need to post here- the tag has a seven day hold time, and a bot removes the tag from any images that come back in use. Given we have several hundred orphaned fair-use images that must be deleted each and every day, sometimes things to fall through the cracks. Also, I would not call removing that image vandalism. Remember that whoever restores non-free content to any article bears personal responsibility for that image meeting the WP:NFCC- a responsibility I am exceedingly reluctant to ever take onto myself. (My opinions that we dramatically overuse non-free content have been aired exhaustively elsewhere.) Courcelles 07:43, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Re:Orphaned image

Thanks for the message. I've made and inquiry into the removal of the picture, so I should be able to determine whether or not to save the image in the next day or two. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:57, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Aaah, I see the bot has already removed the deletion tag. Good, good. Courcelles 09:26, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


Shot you a quick email. sonia 09:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

re: Orphaned File:Asian cup 2000.PNG

Seems someone replaced that picture with an .svg, which I'm cool with. My lower-quality pic serves little purpose now, feel free to speedy delete. Thanks for the heads-up. Falastur2 Talk 12:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

G7'ed. Thanks for letting me know. Courcelles 20:40, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Would you look after Perugia please?

Hi, I noticed you are an administrator and that you've recently raised the protection level on the Murder of Meredith Kercher page. Could you add to your watchlist the Perugia page please? There are several questionable edits ongoing from users coming from the Murder of Meredith Kercher page, and I'd like an administrator to look after the page to prevent an edit war. Thank you.--Grifomaniacs (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I only stuck my toe in the MoMK article because of some serious Oversight issues. It's not an article you'll see me back at. That said, at Perugia, one user is approaching the WP:3RR, so I have warned him for edit warring, and will monitor the situation. Courcelles 20:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you.--Grifomaniacs (talk) 22:44, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Notice of request for deletion of editor Courcelles :)

718smiley.png Courcelles, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Courcelles and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). —James (TalkContribs)6:36pm 08:36, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

oh, great. Delete too many pages and the deletion machine tries to turn on you! Courcelles 11:03, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the kitties want their revenge! :) Also I have sent you an email. —James (TalkContribs)5:17pm 07:17, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks Courcelles :) Gmail froze on me and won't load now :S —James (TalkContribs)8:05pm 10:05, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

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