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Periodic Table of the Elements with Oxidation States[edit]

Good day Dancojocari

Welcome to Wikipdedia. I reverted your edit to Periodic table in which you restored the periodic table showing oxidation states that had been deleted by User:Double sharp. Contributions to Wikipedia that are deleted by another editor should not ordinarily be restored and should instead be discussed at the relevant talk page. As a starting point it would be useful to address the reasons given by Double sharp for deleting your periodic table i.e., "nice but (1) doesn't include all states, just the more common ones (2) has a Sc/Y/La/Ac layout, inconsistent with current Sc/Y/*/** usage on WP and (3) doesn't contain the newest element names of Cn, Fl ,Lv." I have reverted your edit to Periodic table (large) for the same reasons. See WP:BRD for how this works. Double sharp and I, and other editors I expect, will be happy to discuss this with you at the Periodic table talk page. Thank you. Sandbh (talk) 01:25, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted once more [1], with my reason mentioned not exactly a layout variant, more like a diff in (level of) details. This is a slightly different reasoning than Sandbh mentioned; those reasons may still stand. In general, there are already twelve periodic tables in that article. So any extra one should make a significant extra contribution to the article. I think this new one does not enough so.
However, the setup of File:Periodic Table of the Elements svg.svg is potentially a good one. I'll note some points to consider, coming mainly from the many other periodic tables we have. These have convoluted into a more generic presentation, so that our readers recognise more easily the any pattern we want to illustrate with any periodic table.
  1. File name: the svg extension ended up double; and please consider a naming pattern as with most PT templates here. Like Periodic table (18 columns, detailed cells).svg.
  2. Element name: The element name should be in there. This might require that we use full page width for this image - no problem.
  3. Background colors: I do not see the usefulness of mixing two properties into the bg color (state of matter and category of metallish-ness). Good illustrating require keeping independent properties independent. The bg colors used on enwiki and their category names, are described in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Elements/Guidelines#Category. Also, I do not know the reason why the state of matter should be shown prominently.
  4. Category names: pls remove the text 'Lanthanides' and 'Actinides'. None of the (other) categories are mentioned in the graph themselves.
  5. The above-information (group numbers, cell annotations, color legend): I suggest to reoganise into more different graphical areas (not overlapping). This could take more (vertical) space - no problem I think. In detail:
  6. The group numbers elsewhere have sequence as in Group (periodic table): modern - CAS (US; if at all) - old IUPAC (EUR; if at all) - trivial name (common name). They are aligned in top (not diving to the d-block below). For group 1 and 2, keep hor alignment.
  7. Cell legend: visually separated from rest of image.
  8. Any color legend goes below. And as the PT's show the legend now, they add more information (category set structure).
  9. Simply add a lefthand column for period (missing now), and do not crowd the header with long and angle arrows.
  10. rm cell-separators from empty cells (period 1).
  11. Asterisks: now way an asterisk can share a cell with an element (as those for lanthanides/actinides and cell 57/89 now do). That is because there is now way someone can reconstruct the 32-column periodic table from that, it is not clear how to cut & paste the f-block from below into its place. I'd prefer the asterisks be in a separate column for the 14 columns, clearly between groups 2 and 3. See also the note on 'group 3 = Sc/Y/Lu/Lr' by Sandbh above. Having only 14 (not 15) elements in the below satelite rows is OK and helps clarifying the group-3 questions.
  12. For electron configuration (shells), please do not introduce another presentation form (last three shells only).
  13. See also the points mentioned by Sandbh, above. -DePiep (talk) 08:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Adding: sp 'Symbiol'
  15. all cells with elements be equal width. All period rows be equal height. -DePiep (talk) 09:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Dancojocari: A periodic table with oxidation states has some merit since Mendeleev based his periodic table on the same idea. Rather than listing lots of oxidation states for each element, how about showing only the highest, lowest and most stable oxidation states? That would be interesting. You should also include some accompanying explanatory text and think carefully about where to place the table in the article. Sandbh (talk) 23:39, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The removal of metal--nonmetal trends & colors was not discussed. And at this scale the whole table is illegible. Do you have plans to improve that? -DePiep (talk) 13:50, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Given the level of detail combined with the (necessary) small print, I'd expect this one to replace the big one in only Periodic table (large version). Whatever, all out periodic tables this general have should show similar information. e.g. check group 3. -DePiep (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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