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This is the talk page for Miniapolis, who is proud to be a Wikipedia editor. Although I can be reached by email, I prefer keeping discussions on-wiki as much as possible. Due to time constraints, I no longer accept direct copyedit requests; please list articles requiring copyediting for GAN, FAC and the like on the Guild of Copy Editors request page (and consider pitching in with the GOCE, which can always use more help!). Since I take the occasional wikibreak, feel free to undo any administrative action I've taken as you see fit.
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GOCE request[edit]

I have placed Kalidas (film) in the GOCE requests page. I would very much appreciate if you start editing it when possible. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:46, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Kailash. Someone from the guild will get to it as soon as possible; though Miniapolis may not - she's rather busy with other stuff often. KieranTribe (talk) 09:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for copyediting "Man Down".  — Calvin999 08:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

No Gun Ri[edit]


Hope you're doing well. I am currently engaged in a lengthy dispute resolution process over at No Gun Ri Massacre, which has seen a very heated debate between Cjhanley and WeldNeck which has seethed for years.

Part of it revolves around a sourcing dispute, namely, the credibility of the U.S. No Gun Ri Review Report, the initial AP reports (particularly the credibility of certain eyewitnesses), and of historian Robert Bateman. In general, the page has been a battleground, with frequent personal attacks, accusations of POV, bold edits against consensus, and so on, although it has calmed down as of late. It is important to note that Cjhanley is in fact one of the AP reporters who initially broke the No Gun Ri story, and was awarded the Pulitzer Prize; also, WeldNeck has accused him of a conflict of interest. Both editors have compiled extensive lists of their grievances, and have dragged one another to ANI: [1][2][3][4][5] WeldNeck also attacked Cjhanley as a sockpuppeteer: [6]. Neither editor is blameless, to say the least.

For some time, I, along with Timothyjosephwood, Wikimedes, and Irondome have attempted to mediate, and we have successfully imposed an unofficial "freeze" on editing the page without prior proposals. While the situation is not urgent, I would appreciate any help an experienced editor such as yourself could offer. If you are interested, I can also provide some sources to provide background, although some can also be found on the page's external links category. I'm happy to talk on either my talk page or yours.

Thanks very much,

GAB (talk) 22:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I read the talk page, and don't feel I can add anything to the discussion. I'm surprised the article hasn't been taken to the dispute resolution noticeboard by now (especially since it's been to ANI). What I see is one editor trying to own the article and a second editor accusing the first of a COI. Although discussion is proceeding at a snail's pace, the alternative (full protection) would slow things down further but may ultimately be more effective. There seems to be too much heat and not enough light. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 22:49, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 July 2015[edit]

Ayers Rock (band)[edit]

You've done a fantastic job. On behalf of CaesarsPalaceDude and myself: thank you!shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:23, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Glad to help; it's an interesting article, and I learned a lot. Good luck with GA and all the best, Miniapolis 23:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Book talk:Me. I Am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse[edit]

Hey, when you click on show the full book report, a bot keeps messing up the links and assessments. I keep reverting it but the bot messes it up again. Any ideas why?  — Calvin999 17:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have no experience with WP Books and {{Book report}} has no documentation. Cyberbot I is "updating" the book report after your edits, for some reason. Check all your code very carefully (one small mistake further up can make a big difference), and you can leave a note on User talk:Cyberpower678 (the bot's owner). Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 18:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
When I first did it, it was all fine, then the bot decided to do weird things.  — Calvin999 21:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Articles with lists[edit]

What do you think is the best way for counting words in articles with lists? I am working on Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, and the word count is low due to the "listy" parts of the article (some of which I may try to concert with prose anyway). Thoughts? -Pax Verbum 05:52, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

This happens to me a lot; the last article I copyedited was listy :-). Just copy and paste the article text (I used to do this in edit mode, but it's quicker and easier to copy-paste the "live" version) into any word processor with a word-count tool (I use Word or Open Office Writer). "Word count" is usually in the "Tools" drop-down menu. And if you ever need a word count for a section, click "Show preview" in edit mode and the "Page size" link in the sidebar will change from black to blue. Have fun and all the best, Miniapolis 13:47, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
That's what I figured, but I couldn't remember if there was some sort of magical Wiki tool out there that solved the problem. Copy and paste takes sooooooo much work! ;) Thanks for the help! -Pax Verbum 18:18, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

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Pavlov's RfA reward

Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Support so you get a whopping three cookies, fresh from the oven!
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

Chocolate-chip, my favorite! You conducted yourself with a grace that's unusual here, and I wasn't the only one to notice. See you around and all the best, Miniapolis 19:22, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 July 2015[edit]

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Could you tell me, why it's relevant that the above picture is an FP? Most of the others in Category:Featured pictures are not stored locally. Armbrust The Homunculus 14:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

I tweaked your header to keep it from being a big black box :-). According to WP:CSD F8, files tagged {{FeaturedPicture}} need their image-description pages kept locally and I didn't have much experience with selective restoration. Think it's fixed. Miniapolis 16:06, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, it's perfect. Face-smile.svg Thank you Armbrust The Homunculus 18:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for making me learn my new thing for the day :-). All the best, Miniapolis 19:12, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

S/O Satyamurthy[edit]

This article, which you copy-edited recently after a request by me at the GOCE, was promoted to GA-status recently. Here is the review. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations, and thanks for letting me know! All the best, Miniapolis 14:47, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Copy Edit request[edit]

Hi, can you please do a copyedit of the article, Fall of Mosul? RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 10:39, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Miniapolis doesn't take direct copy edit requests (see the top of her talk page), but if you post it on the Guild of Copy Editors requests page she or another member of the guild will get to it ASAP. I'm removing your duplicate post, also. KieranTribe 11:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Kieran; I had to put my foot down long ago when I was besieged by folks who thought their article was more important than those of editors patiently waiting on the requests page, and I realized that "personal" requests are no compliment :-). Cheers to you both, Miniapolis 13:02, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Mm. Looks like you needed to do that, the amount of things that come through here. :-) KieranTribe 13:24, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Ash Crimson[edit]

Thanks for copyediting Ash Crimson. I would nominate it for GA but next week I'll be on holidays. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 20:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Glad you noticed; I was about to ping you :-). Enjoy your holidays, good luck with GA and all the best, Miniapolis 20:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hey! I hope you are doing well. I have a request. Would you please give it a copy edit ASAP as I want to take it to FA. It will be nominated for GA today.—Prashant 07:18, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry—I'm busy, and don't accept direct copyedit requests anyway; see the top of this page. Your best bet is WP:GOCE/REQ. All the best, Miniapolis 13:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for finishing the copyedit of Bahadur Shah I! Folklore1 (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 July 2015[edit]

Malfunctioning template?[edit]

Many thanks for these barnstars, friend. I just thought I'd let you know that the template/script you are using seems to be mis-firing a little; it is double counting some leader-board entries, so handing out extra barnstars, and also not counting 50% request page bonuses, meaning that users are given different barnstars than they should. Not a big deal, I guess, but might be worth checking, since you use those many times every month. Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:53, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay, but Jonesey95 designed the {{GOCE award}} templates and we haven't had any other complaints, so you may want to ask him. He's been very careful with testing, and has made a job which used to take hours (and nobody really wanted to do) infinitely easier. All the best, Miniapolis 21:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I think the work he has done is phenomenal, I just noticed that one extra barnstar popped up on my talk, and when I looked closer another looked different than what it should have been. I can post at his page, but I guess he'll see this ping eventually. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean; I just double-checked your talk page (thinking that perhaps someone else is giving out the awards too), and there's only one barnstar. The leaderboard awards are (or should be—I'm getting punchy and have to start supper :-)) for different categories. All the best, Miniapolis 21:10, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I guess I referred to them both as "barnstars." Apologies for the confusion. There should be only 1 award in the "long articles" category, not two; and it's joint first. Also, if you count the bonuses, I did more than 30k words. Again, I don't mean to sound nitpicky, I don't do this for the awards; it is the script that bothers me. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:21, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
The duplicate award was pilot error on my part, for which I apologize; I was very busy at the time, and was trying to ensure that you got proper credit :-). I calculated the four request articles you did on my trusty calculator, and with the 50-percent bonus your total was 29,127 words. All the best, Miniapolis 22:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Ah I see. I won't quibble about word-count, that's not important, since if it was your error, the template itself is probably just fine. Vanamonde93 (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I checked the math, and it looks fine to me. 2199+496+9575+7148=19,418 words. 19,418*1.5=29,127 words, including the bonus. 29,127+818=29,945 words, including bonus and rollover words.

I think I see the source of confusion about the 1st/2nd place discrepancy. We have a script that checks that math so that we can update the leaderboard and editors' total word and article counts. You can see the results here. Once the script does its work (by generating the table at the bottom of the page), we correct the leaderboard. I just copied the corrected leaderboard back to the July drive page. Hope that clarifies things. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Jonesey95, yes, thank you. The math is secondary; I probably made a mistake when copying individual word counts, but I'm not interested in tracking that down. Mostly I was curious about the extra award that popped up, which Miniapolis has now clarified. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:53, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 August 2015[edit]

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for working on "Only Girl (In the World)" for me :)  — Calvin999 17:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Glad to help; hope the fourth time's the charm. All the best, Miniapolis 17:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Nina Davuluri[edit]

Thank you so much Miniapolis! You did a wonderful job on the article. Thank you as well for the useful tip re: the Further reading section. I will work to better integrate the material into the article and I will let you know when I have done that. Enjoy the rest of your day.-Classicfilms (talk) 23:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Very glad to help; it was an enjoyable copyedit (not all are :-)), and assuming your sourcing is good it looks ready for GA. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 23:24, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
How nice of you thanks. Actually, you have inspired me to tighten it up a bit. I took your advice and for now just deleted the repeats in the EL section. I am going to think a bit about how I can integrate the rest of the articles and I should really check the refs to make certain all are working and if I really need all that are there. I've been building this article here and there over two years and thus it could be a little more cohesive. Your c/e is terrific, I'll make certain not to interfere with your changes - just want to make it a bit better -- and thanks, glad you enjoyed the read. I don't normally edit pageant articles but I think this biography is very interesting and worthy of a GA and thus have worked hard on it and related articles for awhile. Anyway, I'm also swamped in real life so I'll have to go about this at probably a snail's pace. When I'm done, I will drop a line.-Classicfilms (talk) 23:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Don't hesitate to change anything I've done. The only thing that's annoying is when an editor undoes hours of work with a single keystroke but besides that, nothing I do is carved in stone. Although the GA bar is lower than that for FA, in case you get a "fussy" reviewer it helps if the article is as good as possible. Thanks for keeping me in the loop and all the best, Miniapolis 00:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 August 2015[edit]

GOCE August 2015 newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors August 2015 Newsletter
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July drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in last month's backlog-reduction drive. Of the 24 people who signed up, 17 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

August blitz: The one-week April blitz, targeting biographical articles that have been tagged for copy editing for over a year, will run from August 16–22. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the article list on the blitz page. Sign up here!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators, Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, KieranTribe, Miniapolis, and Pax85.

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sent by Jonesey95 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:43, 15 August 2015 (UTC)


Hello! Sorry for the bother. This is the first blitz I am participating in and I have a quick question. To determine what your word count is, do you record the page size of the article BEFORE you start editing and then just add up the total word count? I feel like I saw something explaining this before but cannot seem to find it. Thank you! John Vitzileos (talk) 22:46, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

No bother at all, and thanks very much for your help. The word count is the article before you begin the copyedit; copyediting usually trims the fat :-). There's a handy word-counting script which you can add to your .js page. Have fun and all the best, Miniapolis 23:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 August 2015[edit]


FYI: Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Yin yoga/1

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Hello, Miniapolis. You have new messages at Calvin999's talk page.
Message added 22:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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