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Mention of Visionary Heads in my blog[edit]

FYI, I mentioned your work on my blog http://alexstinson.wordpress.com/ . Thanks Again! Sadads (talk) 22:57, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I read your blog. I used in the articke only 24 mages of the Visionary Heads that I scanned from the books of my library. Unfortunately I have not got more. Please look in your sources. It would be great if we will find some more. I am sure there are plenty of them. If we will find them, this would be the most exciting! I am just began to compose a cycle of piano pieces after these "Visionary Heads" (I am a composer: Dmitri Smirnov) and would be happy to see more of those images. Please help to find them!!! Yours, Dmitri --Dmitrismirnov (talk) 07:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Visionary Heads[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

That's great. Thank you very much! Dmitrismirnov (talk) 08:38, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I have left you a longish message on the talk page of Visionary Heads.
Amandajm (talk) 13:02, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


Summarise the quotes like this

One well-known category of drawings is fully documented. This comprises the so-called "visionary heads", drawn by Blake from what he claimed were visions of a variety of historical characters who appeared at his command and "sat" for their portraits… It seems clear to me that Varley took this curious pastime a great deal more seriously than did Blake. To the latter it was a satisfaction to employ his faculty of vivid memory and imagination in the production of interesting characterizations of a varicty of people... Blake sometimes drew them with such conviction that Varley seems to have regarded them as actual portraits.

Blake claimed that among his visions he saw different historical characters, who would sit for him to draw their portraits.[1] The biographer Keynes observed that Varley took these visions and the drawings that Blake produced from them so seriously that he regarded them as genuine portraits of the historical characters.[1] These drawings are known collectively as the "visionary heads".[1]

The following parts of the quote are entirely superfluous to fact:

comprises so-called
Variety
Curious pastime
a great deal more
To the latter it was a satisfaction to employ his faculty of vivid memory and imagination in the production of interesting characterizations of a varicty of people.. (opnion)
sometimes
such conviction

Get at what the author is actually saying, and loose the rest, unless it conjures the atmosphere of the event first hand (which this doesn't).

Amandajm (talk) 14:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I afraid it is incorrect and much worse that the quotation itself. Please leave as it is. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 14:06, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

You don't seem to have got the message that you cannot lift slabs of someone else's writing and make an article. Rewrite it in your own words. Don't use what I have written. Summarise in the way that uses the information. Keynes isn't writing first hand. He has researched, and is adding opinion. Amandajm (talk) 14:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I left my answer to you at Talk:Visionary Heads. As I told you, I did my best, but you as anyone can change it as you wish. However please do not spoil. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 14:17, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

A Barnstar for You[edit]

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For an incredible number of contributions to the William Blake task force and the GLAM-Wiki cooperation with the William Blake Archive by creating Visionary Heads, content on Russian Wikipedia, uploading materials from Blake's manuscripts to commons, and contributions to English Wikisource for content about the Rossetti Manuscript, Sadads (talk) 21:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Dmitrismirnov (talk) 23:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Keep up the good work! Sadads (talk) 19:08, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Also, congrats on the extrodinary number of page views of the DYK: 7435! Sadads (talk) 19:44, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Blake images from Google Art[edit]

Hey Dmitrismirnov! Thanks for all of the great work that you have been doing lately. FYI, the images that you have been pulling from Google Art Project may not be as representative of the physical objects as similar ones from the William Blake Archive. Since starting the internship with the archive, I have been given some insight into the process for uploading scans and copies for the William Blake Archive and for Google Art. The Blake Archive colour corrects the scans so that they can compare to the eye's interaction with them, while on the other hand Google has a reputation of not always correcting or ensuring faithfulness to the original work. Take for example the two different scans of Jerusalem Cope E, Object 41, the Blake Archive's is more similar to watercolour, while the version you uploaded from Google Art project has a much more granny prominent dark colors (File:Jerusalem_The_Emanation_of_The_Giant_Albion,_copy_E,_object_41_Detail.jpg). The first seems to be more accurate, considering the original medium. Also, since WP:Blake is being supported by the Blake Archive and they have a better Academic reputation then Google Art, it would probably be within best courtesy to upload files from the more authoritative and affiliated organization when they have scans available (which is not the case with works like the Rossetti Manuscript). Hope that thought helps and keep up the good work! Sadads (talk) 22:48, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree. In fact I took these files from the Blake Archive source=http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/object.xq?objectid=jerusalem.e.illbk.41&java=no The detail (cropped) picture looks a bit different because I added contrast to make better readable the inverted text on the left Dmitrismirnov (talk) 23:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Cool beans, the templates with the Google Art Project Templates must have been throwing me off, and I didn't read the description closely enough on the cropped version. Thanks again for all the great work! Sadads (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

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No problem. I have no objection for deletion. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 00:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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For your contributions to the William Blake project. Has really helped Blake coverage, which was in a sorry state not so long ago. Bertaut (talk) 00:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for this. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 09:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

DYK nom for Human Abstract[edit]

FYI, nominated the Human Abstract for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/The Human Abstract (poem), Sadads (talk) 21:35, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

It is good. Thank you! Dmitrismirnov (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks, changed to Garden of Eden. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 11:30, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Poems from songs![edit]

Great work on the last couple articles about the Songs of Innocence and of Experience! Keep up the good work. While you are working on those though, would you mind leaving Laughing Song (Songs of Innocence), "Night" (Songs of Innocence), "Spring" (Songs of Innocence), "The Little Boy Lost" (Songs of Innocence) and "The Little Boy Found" (Songs of Innocence) uncreated? The poetry class I am working with this semester is going to be writing those articles for an assignment, and we should have articles up within the next month or two. Some of the articles already created are rather sparse, and could be a good alternative to those poems. Cheers! and Happy editing, Sadads (talk) 20:56, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

ok, thanks! Dmitrismirnov (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
  • I saw what you're doing in your sandbox: that's a fine piece of work. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the appreciation Dmitrismirnov (talk) 15:48, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

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Copy/Paste plagiarism at Beulah (Blake)[edit]

Hey Dmitrismirnov, I just got a chance to look at Beulah (Blake) and noticed that much of the material was lifted directly from various sites, and not properly attributed (see the changes I made). I would strongly recommend taking a look at Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Plagiarism_on_Wikipedia to see why we don't directly lift language and ideas from other author's work. I don't remember much of your earlier Blake related work doing this kind of direct copy/paste from source materials. Without parphrasing, quoting or some other type of rewriting with attribution, plagiarism both decreases the credibility of Wikipedia and opens it up for Copyright Violations. Were you aware that you were doing this? Sadads (talk) 04:56, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

I understand the problem. Thanks for fixing this. Now it is much better. Dmitrismirnov (talk) 08:32, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Can you go back through your earlier work, and make sure that you don't have moments of plagiarism like that. It opens up your work to criticism and/or reversion similar to the type proposed by User:Ottava Rima on The Mental Traveler. I always try to preempt the problem by making sure that I summarize without any copying from the original source, when writing my draft articles.
Also, on an unrelated note, I responded at Talk:The Mental Traveler, Sadads (talk) 15:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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  1. ^ a b c d G. Keynes, Drawings of William Blake: 92 Pencil Studies, p. vi-vii.