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Archive 2

7 days block per ANI discussion

16 April 2022

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for disruptive editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. User:Ymblanter (talk) 15:13, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Continuing rapid editing while there are objections against your edits is not acceptable. This block is a preventative measure to reduce damage, I will leave the ANI thread open.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

i think there are even more explanation to this. my first intent on this was to reduce the backlog, i did not meant to create any disruptive pattern or anything like it. the problem that was adressed on the ANI was taken into consideration by myself. i did accept the advices on how to proceed correctly and carefully. i try to implement it only with 8 revisions. and i dont think any of them really is disruptive. my intent to do this maintenance on the first place is to reduce the backlog, counter vandalism and try to remove WP:COI, & blatant advertising from the infobox. Untill this day, i recently mentioned in ANI, i really thought that this problem will be addressed as fast as possible and will be simple as it is. But it turns out i was wrong. But my position is clear that i just correctly and carefully removing materials and adding correct fromat in my last recent 8 revisions. Per se to be checked per-items. i did acknowledged my mistakes on the first place and try to correct it. If ever those last recent 8 revisions contains vandalism, disruptive pattern, etc, i'm ready to have a one month block.

Decline reason:

No. You clearly didn't learn what was necessary from the ANI thread, as shown by your edits and by the comments of others, above and below. Yamla (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You are not permitted to remove declined unblock requests for your currently active block. You must not do so again; failure to follow this will likely result in an indefinite block. --Yamla (talk) 11:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

my apologize, i will not do it again. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango 11:04, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

17 April 2022

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

from last night's ANI discussion @Begoon @192.76.8.70 @Rhododendrites @Ymblanter @Jonesey95 really did the right thing, i'm sorry for what i did, i try to improve things, but i ended up messing things up even more. i declare that i deserve this 7 days block. i'm really ashamed of what i did these times around. i will try my best and will stop doing the exact thing i was doing to the Template. and i will try to seek more productive approach to editing the encyclopaedia. this is already enough sanction that i can endure, since i did not anticipate it and i never thought it's gonna happen. but then again, i should've stopped editing the template while the ANI discussion is going last night, if only i show restraint on the editing and listen to others, it wont became a bigger issue like this. some user already flagged me as a possible troll, but i'm not. I'm just trying to fix things but it didnt came out well and ended up making a lot of mess. As a user 192 said, as "what is fixing if it came out even worse". and i rethinked about his saying last night and i am aware what i did was wrong. And i will not do it again in the future. And as Jonesey95 said, it's really a competence issue. Since that's roughly my first attempt to fixing that templete. i actually before this, did well on other things, except this one.

My commitment now is clear that i will stop editing on the template format, and will just doing some minor maintenance instead, ie. Fixing grammars, adding citations, etc per WP:RS. etc, and i will stay away from the Template Settlements, and if ever i came across one, i wont edit or deleted the formats, instead i will try to fix anything else but i wont repeat the same mistake that i did as per my commitment above.

prior that i mentioned above, i hope indef block is not neccessary, since i will refrain this type of editing. But overall i deserve this 1 week block, and if unblocking is not possible, then i will take my time more to re-evaluate my editing approach & i will take restraint and stop on the disruptive behavior and will act accordingly to wikipedia policy. for your valued directives pointed to me last night, if this is what it is, then this what makes the encyclopaedia a better place. atleast there are people that willing to help someone like me to have a better productive measure towards editing. And as @Begoon said, is there any emergency ? there is none. And this is my mistake, and i should've stopped like you said. i hope this is not too late for this declaration that i made. As Aristotle said "A fool contributes nothing worth hearing and takes offense at everything.”. I don't want to became a fool, And in the midst of upheaval, all of you prevented me to become one, and i appreciate that wholeheartedly. i will try to reshape my editing approach in the future with some guidances that you gave. Thank you -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango 05:25, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

"i declare that i deserve this 7 days block."

If you aren't contesting your current block - there is nothing for me to unblock. SQL ^{Query Me!} 07:40, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

21 April 2022

Your statement that you intend to do editing which includes "fixing grammars" gives me concern, because your competence at English is nowhere near suitable for you to do so. (Indeed, the very fact that you have the intention of "fixing grammars" indicates that you shouldn't do so.) That in itself need not preclude your returning to editing, because you can simply accept advice not to do so, but I am more concerned that this is yet one more example of a pattern of your being blind to the nature of the problems in your editing, to add to those already commented on at ANI. If you lack understanding of what you are doing in one area after another, the possibility arises that you may just continue to create more problems in whatever field of editing you may move to. Perhaps, however you can reassure me that you are capable of understanding the nature of at least some of your own mistakes, by answering two simple questions. Why did you make this change, and what do you think of it now? JBW (talk) 09:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

hello @JBW, yes.. my english not that good, so i won't do a grammar fixing on a big scope of edits. And wont do so if objected. but notably i'm active on editing such things as minor improvements on other pages prior to this big erros that i made. as a track record you can check my edits starting from this date (14:39, 25 March 2022 ) to even older ones to the bottom. And you can even seen the diffrence on my editing pattern on those times compared to this times, it sure looks to be a downgrade on a point per my recent edits. But the Declaration i made above is my commitment and also my request for conditional unblock after the discussion on ANI more than three days ago. and as shown on this edit, it's sure is my mistake, because i thought those parameters is not usable and is not a valid entry, but turned up it is valid and i blindly deleted it just because there is a gibberish vandalism in it, and as 192 and Jonesey95 said, i could've fixed it into more proper format and/or convert it into a modern format because some of them used the old format without removing it, and if so, my edit will be valid. But on this case, i ended up deleting it, where i could've just fixed it. And now that i think about it, it is my mistake, and I may include that this is the first time i edited the settlement template. and i turned a blind eye to the fixable parameters. i edited several hundred pages of other topics before this problem became a thing. And it's not problematic or causes problems. but as my statement above, the recent edits that i made is sure to be very problematic and causes many problems. and thus i will refrain, to even stop and persistently not do so again. thank you. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 09:45, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

You've pinged me a couple of times, so I had a look around...

Can you list any other accounts you have used to edit English Wikipedia?

I kinda know the answer, just from looking at this account's early edits, so can you also say why you stopped using those earlier accounts, and what you thought would be different about this account?

If I just outright said, your English is simply nowhere near good enough to edit this English version of WP at all, would you be able to consider that? Begoon 12:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

@Begoon Thank you for coming, i'm able to consider that, so that is why i will not do a task like these, however, my english may not be considered as "well-complex", but i stil can communicate and contributes fluently with it, i.e you can check my old edits to see my competentness in english. overall I'm looking forward for your comment many days ago.

"Can you list any other accounts you have used to edit English Wikipedia?, I kinda know the answer, just from looking at this account's early edits, so can you also say why you stopped using those earlier accounts, and what you thought would be different about this account?" so regarding on this. I did not have any more accounts, and I will not create any accounts other than this. However i have an old account before i created this one under WP:FRESHSTART, it is Tennppakuranohimarayasenmyaku which i compeletely abandoned months ago. You can check it, And that is my only old account prior to this one. and my reason for a fresh start is because i felt some anxiety using that old account, even though i'am sure there's nothing wrong with it, But overall i just wants to start everything from anew, that is why i created this account.

and about my recent edits, on why am i moving from my old approach of edits to this problematic one is because i'm trying to do a maintenance task, but turned up it's a big mess, however, now i think i'm not near suitable for it and perhaps need way more time to be able to do those task correctly, which i will not do if objected. and also i will stop in whatever it is considered as problematic from now on. and i hope an indef block is not neccessary. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 12:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok. Your comments about earlier accounts don't make sense with regards to what I've seen, and your reply above is an almost unintelligible ramble, but that's not really important - the important thing is that it is very clear that you do not understand English well enough to edit here. I'm going to post one of my old standard texts below. I'd like you to read it and seriously consider what it says. What I'm saying may sound harsh, but I think it's fair - you just don't have the command of English which is required to edit here. That's fine, lots of people don't - but I think it's very important that you understand that. Begoon 12:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Your edits

Hi. I've noticed that a lot of the edits which you've been making have used English which is poor, and difficult to understand. Sometimes the edits you make have too many formatting, grammatical and language errors for them to be fixable.

I understand that English is not your first language but it can be a real problem when editors introduce so many errors that it takes others a long time to clean up after them. I wonder if it might be a good idea for you to consider going to the the list of Wikipedias, looking in the list for a Wikipedia that is in your own language, and editing there instead, because you might find that easier. Thank you, Begoon 12:47, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

English is my first language at this point, because i did not understand Mandarin nor Indonesian Fully. But on this issue I might ask for a WP:DRR/3, since i'm sure my comments above is well understandable. Earlier You asked me about Can you list any other accounts you have used to edit English Wikipedia? And i replied and imply that i have an old account before i created this one, but i abandoned it, and also i wont create any other account other than this last one i use. i hope that was an upright answer. But please do point on where and which is my mistake on my answer above. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 12:57, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

I've tried my best but I'm giving up now, sorry. If English is your first language then I'm a venusian helicopter. I'm not going to waste any more time here. Begoon 13:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

well i didnt mean that, but this doesnt mean English is my native language either. it's just i used it everyday, (What I'm saying may sound harsh, but I think it's fair - you just don't have the command of English which is required to edit here. That's fine, lots of people don't - but I think it's very important that you understand that.), btw i'm considering on this, and valued every directives that you gave. and thank you very much for the answer above, overall i wont do any editing mistakes again in the future after this discussion. Thank you -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 13:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

In the answers to my questions above you have told me at least 3, probably 4 direct falsehoods. I sincerely hope that the reason you "wont do any editing mistakes again in the future after this discussion" is that you won't be permitted to edit here at all. You are utterly clueless, but worse than that, you have no idea that you are utterly clueless, and you don't think that cluelessness should stop you from editing... One day you may realise and understand all this, but I don't think it will be soon. Begoon 13:10, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

My apologize, but what is the falsehoods ? I'm recognizing my mistake and putting a request for reviewing my old edits, it wont justify my recent edits in any way, i just want to reassure you that i will be back to that old mode of editing. And moving away from this disruptive pattern. in which i did not intend to create more problems here, i want this to be closed, morever i should've listened to what you said that night. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 13:17, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Your falsehoods?

List all your old accounts, for a start. You haven't done that yet.

I'm going to say, though, that I won't personally be coming back here to see any response. I'm done with this now. Begoon 13:21, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

i'm sorry, but i have already done that, please read again, above, i said; "so regarding on this. I did not have any more accounts, and I will not create any accounts other than this. However i have an old account before i created this one under WP:FRESHSTART, it is Tennppakuranohimarayasenmyaku which i compeletely abandoned months ago. You can check it, And that is my only old account prior to this one. and my reason for a fresh start is because i felt some anxiety using that old account, even though i'am sure there's nothing wrong with it, But overall i just wants to start everything from anew, that is why i created this account.". I only have 2 accounts, this one and my old one which is now abandoned under WP:FRESHSTART, if you dont believe me, you can ask administrators to check. i'm so sorry if i have said anything wrong. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 13:32, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok. I hope it all works out well for you. It's fascinating how your command of English fluctuates, but I wouldn't read anything into that. Begoon 13:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the understanding, if ever this issue is finished, please be sure to visit me anytime. i hope you have a good day. Thank you for helping me overall -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Why did you drag it out this long before admitting what was obvious? It almost seems rude to do that. Begoon 14:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

no no, i didn't meant anything like that. -Hokutobukukaitokukainokukinkinokukango (talk) 14:17, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

23 April 2022

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistently making disruptive edits.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 22:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

I apologize for any perceived impropriety in letting your block expire before converting it to indefinite, but as it stands you are not to be unblocked for an indefinite period until restrictions on your editing can be imposed. This may and will most likely be done via a voluntarily agreement in exchange for an unblock, per WP:CONDUNBLOCK. The condition that I would personally suggest would be a topic ban from semiautomated editing, with the exception of Twinkle, although the specifics are open to negotiation. I am also initiating a mass rollback of your edits, per the ANI thread. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 22:07, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and just to be clear, this doesn’t necessarily need to become a lengthy extension of the block. It can be as short as you want it to be. We simply require a voluntarily agreement to an editing restriction that will be enforceable and formally logged. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 22:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

@Swarm Thank you very much!, I agree on the condition of WP:TBAN per WP:CONDUNBLOCK, and since those mistakes that i did was obvious, i voluntarily agreed, and accept the condition for conditional unblock. this time i will act with refrain and will contributes persistently according to wikipedia policy. For the WP:TBAN I may negotiate that "I will not edit anything that uses template:settlements, whether it is a city, settlements, towns, subdivisions, divisions or villages. and also a ban on communicating through it's talk pages, with the exception of using twinkle or other tools for reverting an obvious vandalism. I hope this restriction is enforcable and can be formally logged. Sincerely.. -Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo (talk) 22:37, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I'm not really sure you have enough English language proficiency to edit English Wikipedia. Your edit summaries are confusing, and I can't understand what most of them are trying to say. This unblock request is not very clear, either. For example, "i will act with refrain" makes no sense. Then there's the multiple accounts. Why do you have multiple accounts? Then there's the multiple renames for each of those accounts. I don't understand why your rename requests kept getting accepted. Then there's the hundreds of edits to your user space under these accounts. Looking at one of those edits says your first account was from 2014. When I saw that, I gave up trying to track the confusing number of account renames and clean starts, and, honestly, it's your job to document this somewhere per WP:SOCK#NOTIFY. And, finally, there's an IP editor who submitted a draft you wrote after you were blocked. I have no idea if that was you editing logged out or not, and I haven't tried to find out via the CheckUser tool. I don't want to know. Knowing would compel me to look further into this confusing case, which I suspect to be a bottomless rabbit hole. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 00:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

@NinjaRobotPirate, "i will act with refrain" is interpreted as i will "stop any attempt on editing certain articles on which i was disruptive at". moreover i only have 2 accounts, (only 1 active), because i already abandoned my old account since the Freshstart.

about my contributions, my sincere apologies if the introductions on my old account creates unintended confusion. i started contributing to wikipedia in 2020 in which the first article that i edited was the Free Papua Movement. this can be found on my old account, dated 9 july, 2020.

To re-assure you even further, in 2014, i only read wikipedia.. i did not participate in any wikipedia projects then, let alone editing.

And yes, that IP was actually me, i'm trying to revert some of the good-edits that gets caught up by the mass rollback, then to re-submit my draft since it also got automatically rollbacked by the tool.

About my english proficiency, now that i am fully aware in which i did a lot of grammatical errors.. i will try my best to re-competence myself. and to make things even clearer, i did not have any intent to make this case to become a bottomless rabbit hole. -Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo (talk) 06:12, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Dogukeppa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

I want to change my confusing username. also, i am willing to take topic ban sanction as suggested by @Swarm, to be exchanged for conditional unblock. -Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo (talk) 14:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You've been evading your block. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Kuomintang-Nanjing has been accepted

Kuomintang-Nanjing, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Nyanardsan (talk) 09:21, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo. Thank you for creating Keimin Bunka Shidōsho. User:SunDawn, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thanks for the article!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 04:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

3 December 2022

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

Beforehand, Thank you very much for anyone out there who keeps an eye of me and my mistakes all these times. it's been 6 months almost. as for my unblocking conditions, i still agrees on the terms given to me by the blocking administrator. here i also requested a name change, because it's really obvious that my current name is confusing and confuses many fellow editors. -Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo (talk) 16:16, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Accept reason:

You are unblocked on the basis you have agreed to a topic ban from semi-automated editing, with the exception of Twinkle. PhilKnight (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Based on checkuser data, I see no evidence of recent block evasion. --Yamla (talk) 17:56, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

That username is taken, please pick another, then edit the above template with your choice. PhilKnight (talk) 13:04, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps i'll just shorten my current username, thanks -Doğukeppanochomolungmahokutotenkachōjo (talk) 13:19, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

@Swarm: - how do you feel about a possible unblock with the condition you outlined? PhilKnight (talk) 13:36, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

@PhilKnight No objections. ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 15:44, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. PhilKnight (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much everyone :) -Dogukeppanohokutotenkachojo (talk) 16:30, 7 December 2022 (UTC)