User talk:Estarriol/Archive 1

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Good article listing

I see you've self-nominated this as a Good article - and I thoroughly agree and support this nomination. This is well on it's way to Featured standard IMHO. I'll perform a more full review when I get a serious chunk of time - so please don't hold your breath. For now, well done, sir. :-) --Estarriol 10:46, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

THANK YOU! Palm_Dogg 16:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Richard Francis Burton

Thanks for your peer review input on Richard Francis Burton -- I tidied up the references. I think I found a good way of doing it which keeps things tidy and meets your suggestion of not jarring the reader. I also found a nice quote about his abilities with the sword: He also earned the name "Ruffian Dick" for his "demonic ferocity as a fighter and because he had fought in single combat more enemies than perhaps any other man of his time. --Richard Clegg 13:10, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Peer review request

Hi Estarriol,

I found your name in the Martial arts project listing. My article on Cutmen is currently undergoing Wikipedia:Peer review/Cutman/archive1 peer review: could you let me know if you have any feedback?

Thank you! -- CasualFighter 21:29, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Great feedback - Thanks! CasualFighter 18:56, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Java disambiguation page

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), disambiguation pages shouldn't contain any extraneous links (i.e. links that don't disambiguate the topic), and also they shouldn't have the disambiguation link piped. --rogerd 23:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for answering my question.--Brendenhull (talk) [00:25, April 22, 2006]

Vandalism by

No problem. They had been warned several times. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

what the :-)

hi Estarriol! well this is going to sound funny but I think you thanked me for something. how do you thank users? and thanks for thanking. Suleyman Habeeb 19:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Esperanza!


Welcome, Estarriol, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member you should read the guide to what to do now or you may be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We will send you newsletters to keep you up to date. Also, we have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.

I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee comprised of JoanneB, FireFox and Titoxd. The next set of elections will be in April, we will keep you updated about the results. Because you are a new member, you are not able to vote in these elections, but you will be more than welcome to take part in the elections in June.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact Celestianpower by email or talk page or the Esperanza talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users via our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, you may find help at an IRC Tutorial written by one of our members. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to work!

Feezo (Talk) 10:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Jacob Hoeppner

Thanks Estarriol, I appreciate the edits you did on my page titled Jacob Hoeppner. Is there anything more I need to do to Wikify it? It looks complete to my untrained eye. --Cfheppner 16:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
Note from the editor
As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
  2. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
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  4. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture
20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Jennifer Stone

I changed her category of "Czech models" to "Czech porn stars" because they are not necessarily the same thing. I changed it for categorization because other pages for example have just "German porn stars" and them "German models". Porn stars in one category and regular super or fashion models in the other. I feel that it's best to help people find exactly what they are looking for.

Jerry Jones 19:42, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Tom Hendricks

I have come across Tom on Usenet over the past few years. Self-promotion, in fact it was tag refering to his Wiki entry that made me notice this article - which I considered an abuse, but wanted somebody else's comment, rather than my two big feet.--Richhoncho 10:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message, I think you're doing a great, and more importantly, an unbiased job. More than I could do this particular instance. --Richhoncho 21:51, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


I know ~~~~ makes a shortcut for someone's signature and date comment left, but how do I make the (Talk) link quickly without typing out ([[User talk:ChocolateRoses|Talk]]), or am i just being lazy and is there no other way? ChocolateRoses 14:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)(Talk)

It's a little tricky - basically you'd need to build yourself a custom signature. Go into "my preferences" at the top of the screen, in the "User Profile" tab, under "Nickname" enter the following:
&mdash; [[User:ChocolateRoses|ChocolateRoses]] <sup>[[User talk:ChocolateRoses|talk]]</sup>
Then check the "Raw Signature" box and save. Try ~~~~ in a talk page edit (you don't need to save, just preview) and see if that works for you. It should look like this:
ChocolateRoses talk
You can then customise further if you like. Hope that helps, let me know how it goes. — Estarriol talk 15:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I'm enjoying discovering the ways of Wikipedia! — ChocolateRoses talk 19:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Could you tell me how you leave messages within the edit section? I know there's a discussion page, but is it possible to explain sources and what's been done in so far as clean-up is concerned etc. within the article itself, without it showing in the main page? So when an editor tries to change something he gets an explanation as to why it's there, for example..? — ChocolateRoses talk
  • You can surround comments with <!-- and --> and that will mean that they only appear in the source of the page, there's one in this paragraph that you can see if you look at the page source. However, generally sources should be referenced as explained in WP:CITE, as referencing is important to be seen in the article. If you're going to put comments in pages, I strongly recommend that you mainly put "see talk page for explanation" type comments. Hope that helps. — Estarriol talk 18:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Help req: restoring sidebox image of userbox

Dear Estarriol, you've been so helpful to me with my initial efforts to create a decent User Page, including recommending subst for the userboxes -- and now I must again turn to you for assistance!
The {{user:translator}} userbox now has a sidebox image, Rosetta1.jpg, that I particularly dislike. (Upon first viewing just now on my Userpage, I thought it had been vandalized!! :-o
I want to replace this on my page with the original, Rosetta_Stone.jpg, which I found easily because it's still in the directory of userboxes by profession. However, even by typing what I though was the correct name of that .jpg file, it didn't work.
Now that the subst has been done (whose value I fully appreciate, thanks!), I have great difficulty maintaining my userboxes.
Thanks for any help you can provide! Deborahjay 02:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
(P.S. - the red text here of the two .jpg file names was added for emphasis; I realize I didn't use the correct syntax to make them live links.) Deborahjay

  • It took me a while to get this; Rosetta Stone.jpg is the same (and I agree, awful) image of the stone that's in the userbox, however Rosetta stone.jpg is the good photo of it. It's just the capitalisation of the 'S'; sadly Wikipedia is case-sensitive on all bar the first letter. It's a shame it's behind glass now... it was great to be able to touch it. Shame we can't trust people not to be vandals. — Estarriol talk 08:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh! The Rosetta Stone image I so disliked earlier today (that prompted my plea to you) wasn't the Rosetta_Stone.jpg, i.e. the previous userbox photo of the stone itself (full-frontal, slightly different foreground/background proportions -- and frankly, I liked it well enough), but some image called Rosetta1.jpg that consisted of a big, jaggy red "X" on a white background. Ugh!! I'm happy with what you've provided me now, and thank you for that.

Further progress report: I gained confidence and tried some more (and more persistent) tweaking of the vertical sequence of my userboxes, and now they display just as I'd intended. The only technical irregularity is that I added the simple template syntax, i.e. {{User wpjh}} for the Jewish History WikiProject userbox (a recent addition, and promoted to a higher slot on the totem pole as befits its significance in my Wikipedia activity). Haven't dared try the subst treatment, so if you'd agree to intervene again, I'll feel more secure... :-)
Thanks again! Deborahjay 14:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Obviously I have no problem doing that for you, but substing is so painless that I think I'll provide the exact text to enter for you and let you do it so that you gain the experience - if you're really still not happy doing it, let me know and I'll do it for you. It's as simple as putting {{subst:User wpjh}} instead of {{User wpjh}}. Why not give that a try and see how you go? You can always revert the edit if something goes wrong! — Estarriol talk 15:02, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Did it! (I just hadn't understood WHERE to put the {{subst}} in relation to the item in question.) Trusting your good judgment (i.e. that I should try this myself), I've gained experience and confidence. So, with the momentum of that success, I dared attempt the restore of my preferred Rosetta Stone (by replacing the space in its name with an underscore, which I actually remembered from the aborted maneuver early this morning) -- et voila!
Oh, and I left you a tip at my User Page...see our previous discussion there. Deborahjay 16:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Small press wiki

Thanks very much, Estarriol, for your early brainstorming regarding a small press wiki. Although I'm already thinking of the revert wars in its future, I have no doubt it would eventually become an invaluable resource. I'm trying to move my focus more towards print, but if this is something you're interested in persuing, please e-mail me and I'll put you in contact with people who might be interested in helping you get it off the ground. JonathanPenton 20:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Ah, actually it was something I was suggesting that the ULA might want to do (rather than — seemingly — try to use Wikipedia for their own ends). At this time, I have no personal interest in setting up the project, although in the future I could see I may do, given the number of self-published creatives in my family. Should I ever do so, I'll come knocking on your door, thanks. And if the ULA want some pointers as to what would be required, I could make them a list. :-) — Estarriol talk 22:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Oh well, my misunderstanding. Thanks! JonathanPenton 00:20, 7 June 2006 (UTC)