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Your submission at Articles for creation: MICIMATT (December 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Novem Linguae were:

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The comment the reviewer left was:

Consortium News is not a reliable source. WP:NPPSG.

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–Novem Linguae (talk) 13:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: MICIMATT (December 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Novem Linguae was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Better, thank you. Need more sources to pass WP:GNG though. The sources should be newspapers or books that go into multiple paragraphs of detail about the subject. This may be a non-notable WP:NEOLOGISM, need sources to demonstrate that it isn't.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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–Novem Linguae (talk) 13:43, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:MICIMATT has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:MICIMATT. Thanks! Noahfgodard (talk) 19:10, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: MICIMATT (April 17)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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S0091 (talk) 18:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can understand both that running an encyclopedia requires a validation of sources, and that the policy of "validation of sources" may change over time.

It is interesting to see how rapidly my disambiguation page on RPZ was accepted in 2012, with the page still existing. This disambiguation page leads to a new version of RPZ (a second, independent meaning), which is essentially a creation of a new term. That still exists too. It was created years before this became a standard technology in computer network defence, which it is now.

In an attempt to have this site recognize a term developed by someone with expertise in the topic, your new policy deflection amounts to "not enough sources of which we approve".

Luckily, language is just done by people. There are no gatekeepers of approvers of societal use of language. You are welcome to enforce policy and deny what is happening according to unapproved persons or publications referring to a term which your publication does not with to provide legitimacy to, but people just do what they do, irrespective of your "approved sources" approach.

I respectfully suggest that while you are playing policy games the author of this term knows much more about the evolution of the influence on USA government (foreign) policy by the organisations referenced in MICIMATT since the original term, Military Industrial Complex, was used by USA President Eisenhower in his final public address in 1961.

Language will be language, and Encyclopedias may catch up.

See you in the future. 2A02:AA7:4008:AB6D:513F:3171:5F19:B157 (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:MICIMATT

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:01, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MICIMATT

Hello, Fallingdowncataclysm. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MICIMATT".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:42, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So, are you ready to admit that this acronm exists, is in usage and thus a page to describe it is sensible?

Just curious. 2001:8003:2339:F00:CE86:C048:FD4:75A1 (talk) 10:20, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]