User talk:Fandelasketchup

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Hello, Fandelasketchup, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 18:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:

  1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment; or
  2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button (Insert-signature.png or Button sig.png) located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.

Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 23:39, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


Fandelasketchup, judging by your edits at Talk:Comparison of American and British English, you don't yet understand the way signatures work in Wikipedia. All you need to do is add four tildes (~~~~) after each new comment, and Wikipedia will fill in your username and the correct date. If you later tweak your comment a little, you don't need to change the date. If you need to change it substantially, it is probably better to just start a new comment. RockMagnetist (talk) 15:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Must I do that also for articles or just for talk pages, RockMagnetist? I mean, in the edit pages for articles I also see the signature symbol in the visual editor. That's why I am confused. Also, I think signatures on articles could really prevent edit wars --Marce 16:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, the way I do it when editing is far different than what you expect:

I tend to put all I want in separate places (like this comment) and I only sign after the LAST thing has been said. Or are you suggesting that when I write a letter/e-mail I should sign it BEFORE the farewell? --Marce 16:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

P.S.: You obviously don't know how to use Wikipedia yourself. Please learn how to do that instead of criticizing the way others edit --Marce 16:16, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean about signatures on articles. Are you talking about the revision history (e.g., your talk page history)? Edits to articles should have edit summaries but not signatures.
My recommendations only repeat information that is in the standard welcome banner at the top of this page and the message from the bot. See Signatures and Talk page guidelines. Doing it right would save you a lot of trouble. For example, in this edit you date three different statements. You only need a single signature for a given edit, so you could have just used four tildes at the bottom of your comments. It helps to format your comments properly (see Indentation). RockMagnetist (talk) 16:29, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
What I meant, dearRockMagnetist, is that signatures on articles could help prevent edit wars. Let me give you an example: --Marce 16:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Editor A adds a new section which expands upon the lead paragraph of a certain article (which for illustration purposes I'll call "X") but forgets to sign it. Then a second editor, Editor B, expands upon A's work but does sign his edit to X.--Marce 16:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

See the difference? A didn't sign his contribution so it's impossible to know who wrote it, while B did, so we know (s)he was the author of the second edit. --Marce 16:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
On a side note, I chose to name the people "A" and "B" because that's the model most of the ESL textbooks I own follow when preseting pairwork activities.--Marce 16:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
On signing edits to articles, read When signatures should and should not be used. And imagine what a mess it would be if articles were cluttered with signatures. RockMagnetist (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Have you noticed, by the way, that SineBot keeps signing your comments? That will continue to happen until you sign your comments the way everyone else does. RockMagnetist (talk) 17:47, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
What if I want to keep my edits to myself? WHAT THEN??? I DON'T want anybody to see who edited what, or do you think I'm a pedo? --Marce 13:05, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
And another reason why I think editors MUST sign their contributions to articles is to prevent Wikipedia from thinking it is original research (or have you not seen the numerous articles which alert about original research?)--Marce 13:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
Also, I often forget so sign my posts on talk pages because oftentimes the time displayed on the resulting datestamp is incorrect, for example I may be editing something at 7 or 8 in the morning and it shows up like 8 or 9 at night. See what I mean? --Marce 13:12, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
See the timestamp above on my last message? It clearly says "13:12" for the time, when the correct time should be 10:16, that's why I said the timestamp is oftentimes incorrect and thus I may forget to sign my comments Marce 13:17, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
I think you need to also alert others besides me to sign their coments in the proper way, because I see the following on an edit to the page to which you are referring:"—Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)" See? --Fandelasketchup (talk) 12:37, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
And, quite to the contrary of what you say, I find not signing articles just as disrespectful as forgetting to put the right hand over the heart for the pledge of allagiance or the national anthem. PERIOD. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 12:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't think you quite understand Wikipedia yet. Articles have references to authenticate the content. Talk pages need to have comments signed so that everyone knows who made the comment. That's how it works. Please read the links kindly provided by RockMagnetist above. ( ... and I've never put my right hand over my heart here in England, except to see if it's still beating!) Dbfirs 16:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
No, dumbass, that is NOT how it works because I've seen some users complaining that another user's comments on talk pages are not sourced as to include the changes they talk about in the article. That's why I said the thing about also signing articles. Because, since edit history is invisible and signatures, on the other hand, are visible, that would make it easier to locate the edit's author. I did NOT say to sign the ENTIRE article one is working on, but rather the SECTION of the article they're working on. I thnk you are the one who doesn't understand Wikipedia yet. --Fandelasketchup (talk) 08:49, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
I think you should learn the difference between visible and invisible before talking to me again --Fandelasketchup (talk) 08:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
You still have a lot to learn about Wikipedia and WP:Civil, but I won't comment further since you seem to prefer your own opinion. Dbfirs 07:10, 28 May 2016 (UTC)


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