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September 2009

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There's either a policy or a guideline of using the most familiar form of a name to English-speakers as the name on the article in en.wikipedia, and it's standard practice to link to that form rather than to one that leads to a redirect, as the German Eduard Fortunat does. I suspect that "Edvard" in the article name may have been an error, since the article itself has "Edward," but no English-speaker is going to look him up under "Eduard." Most common first names like that are anglicized in English. (Besides, the article on him says Elizabeth I gave him his name; I doubt she said it in German!) Fortunatus is probably the form of the other name that writings of the time used - Latin being the international language of the time - but in any case, the decision as to the primary form of the name has been made for en.wikipedia when his article was named and when the lead paragraph was written. If you have English-language sources referring to him under the German versions of both names, then you should move the article accordingly and have "Edward Fortunat" become the redirect. The Edvard Fortunatus article is very poorly translated, I presume from an earlier version of the de.wikipedia article, and I've put it on my mental list to improve in that respect, but if you have sources to hand it might be better for you to do that, since the article also badly needs sources and seems to be missing some of the material in the German article. But the form of the name should reflect English-language sources. So, there being no deadline, if I find the time to improve that article and you haven't already done so, I'll look up sources myself and go with the form of Fortunatus' name that I find in English-language sources both there and in House of Palatinate-Birkenfeld. Meanwhile I'll leave your revert in place pending your checking for what English sources have, if you get to it before I do. How does that sound? Yngvadottir (talk) 09:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then the confusion is already there and you should move the article from Edvard Fortunatus. But I think that's contrary to policy, which goes by what English-speaking users are most likely to look it up under. I suspect you may be forgetting that while you and I can read German and therefore to us, sources in German are equally useful (and Eduard is a familiar form of the name), the assumption is that on the English Wikipedia, people speak and read English . . . hence I suggest you look at what English-speaking stories have for his name. If they have Eduard Fortunat, then the article should be moved. If they have Edward Fortunatus, the the article should be moved to that (fixing the "Edvard" that is only in the title.) It's not a matter of predominance of sources though - it's a matter of what an English speaker is most likely to type into the search box. From that follows the principle that the article shouldn't be linked to under a form that is a redirect unless there's a compelling reason. Redirects are there to catch the unusual multilingual user like you and me, as well as those who mistype. So that's why I'm saying look at English-language sources. Of course, if there aren't any at all, then that explains why the article has no refs yet! Yngvadottir (talk) 10:28, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your account will be renamed

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23:54, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed

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12:52, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

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