User talk:Gferr

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Welcome to Wikipedia, Gferr! Thank you for your contributions. I am K6ka and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Undisclosed paid editing[edit]

Hello Gferr. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a black hat practice.
Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Gferr. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Gferr|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. SmartSE (talk) 11:28, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Smartse:

Gferr, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by Myself on behalf of Bryan Armentrout for their contributions to Wikipedia.

I apologize deeply. I did my best to read the guidelines but I must have missed this part. In the future I will be sure to disclose this information. Even though I receive compensation, I do my best to maintain a neutral point of view. If you see any issues with future articles, please feel free to leave a message on my page and I will try to adress the issue. Thanks Gferr (talk) 21:45, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You need to remove the "tlc|" from that template though so that it is properly formatted.

More important than disclosure though is that you only create articles on notable topics and write in a neutral fashion based off reliable sources. Draft:Bryan Armentrout doesn't appear notable to me and the language throughout is very promotional e.g. "The Food Leadership Group markets themselves as an adaptable consulting firm with a focus on food safety and regulatory compliance." SmartSE (talk) 14:48, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed to me as a CEO and founder of his own company that Bryan was a very notable person. I phrased that to avoid promotion but if you don’t see it that way I will be happy to remove it Gferr (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Literally anyone can found a company. That's a long way from making someone notable. Please read WP:BIO for information about what does confer notability. The text I quoted was an example-the whole article is written like that though. I've moved the article back to being a draft because it was either that or delete it as spam. Excuse my brevity I'm on mobile. SmartSE (talk) 20:05, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Smartse: I had already read that page and it seems we have a difference in opinion as to whether he complies. If you believe very strongly that the language of the article is unfairly worded, which I do not, I will happy to edit it to comply as best I can. Do you believe it is salvageable? I do not wish to put any irrelevant information on Wikipedia Gferr (talk) 20:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your edits but am afraid that far more is required. The whole tone is promotional. From experience, if you work in PR you may not be able to see what the problem is. Notability would need to be determined in a deletion discussion but from my review of the sources he is a lon way from meeting BIO so unfortunately I doubt whether it can be salvaged. SmartSE (talk) 07:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Smartse: I understand. Do you think his company or book would meet notability guidelines if I was careful to avoid promotional language? Gferr (talk) 17:11, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Smartse: Continue discussion on talk page of Draft:Bryan Armentrout

AfC notification: Draft:Bryan Armentrout has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Bryan Armentrout. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 17:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your attention needed at WP:CHU[edit]

Hello. A renamer or clerk has responded to your username change request, but requires clarification before moving forward. Please follow up at your username change request entry as soon as possible. Thank you. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 12:54, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]