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Welcome

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Welcome!

Hello, Grev02, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Kudpung (talk) 12:57, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Northamptonshire

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Hi Grev02! A Wikipedia:WikiProject Northamptonshire has now been created. If you wish to help out improving articles relating to anything in the county, please don't hesitate to go to the page and sign up!--Kudpung (talk) 12:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kettering

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Hi Grev02,
Your hard work on the Kettering article is very much appreciated. It's one of the top priority articles within the scope of the new Wikipedia Northants project and other editors will be dropping by to see if they can lend a hand with the editing or make suggestions and constructive criticism. In order to help them do this, it may be a good idea if you could start using the Show Preview button to check your edits before finally pressing the Save Page button. This will reduce clutter on the history log, and help other users to follow your changes and additions, especially if you remember to add the edit summary that is always required every time. Keep up the good work! --Kudpung (talk) 16:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help request

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Hi. I have moved the following help request over from Talk:Kettering; helpme's are dealt with on user talk pages, not on article talks - so that we can help the individual user. I hope that this is OK; if, instead, you wished to start a discussion on the article talk page, then please move it back. Otherwise, I'm sure a friendly helper (which might be me!) will be along to answer your query right here, ASAP. If you want 'instant help', please talk to us live, with this or this. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This help request is re. Kettering

Pipewell abbey

{{helpme}}This was already on the page with several wrong facts. Didn't know whether to rectify or delete so I rectified. Not only had I never heard of it but Pipewell is much closer to Corby than Kettering. How far is too far from Kettering for it to be mentioned? Boughton house obviously needs to be mentioned (and is) but what about Triangular lodge and the Eleanor Cross?Grev02 (talk) 20:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. We have to consider the relevance to the subject of the article; is information on Pipewell directly relevant to a piece about Kettering? I don't know. I would suggest either of the following approaches;
  1. - Change it, and see if anyone objects. If they do, discuss it with them. Please read WP:BRD
  1. - Start a discussion about it, on Talk:Kettering - see what others interested in the article think.
In either case, if you have problems in getting a consensus, try to get more people to discuss it. For example, ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Northamptonshire - just a brief note with a link to the discussion, asking for input.
For more help, you can either;
  • Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
  • Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
  • Talk to us live, with this or this.
Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  00:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kettering

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Hi. Another contributor brought to my attention that some of the material recently added to Kettering followed a bit too closely to Greenall's book for us to comfortably use it without at least direct quotation. I have revised the passages pointed out. If you by chance are Greenall, you are, of course, free to use your own text or closely follow your own work if your publisher does not object to your licensing the material as required here (we have had occasions where authors have had to remove text later when their publishers objected and are actually in the process of deleting some material for that very reason related to Scottish history), but since Wikipedia does not have any method of verifying identity on account creation, we would need you to verify your identity externally, as through the processes at donating copyrighted material. If you are not Greenall (or even if you are, but would prefer not to go through the hassle of verifying it), we must put information into completely new language unless we are handling it in accordance with the non-free content policy and guideline, by clearing noting duplicated text with quotation marks or other acceptable means, such as blockquote. While the passages pointed out to me — I don't have access to the book myself — would almost certainly represent too small a matter to concern the US copyright law that governs Wikipedia, we try to be more rigorous than fair use allowances in using and especially noting copyrighted material because Wikipedia's content can be reproduced anywhere in the world. If copyrighted material is plainly marked, it can be easily removed by reusers as necessary to comply with copyright restrictions in their own regions. Thank you, and the article seems to be shaping up beautifully. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Northamptonshire

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Hi Grev02! A Top Priority article you have been involved with has many issues and urgently needs improving. If you can help with these issues please see Talk:Northamptonshire, address the different points if you can, and leave any comments there. (This is a generic message. if it has been placed on your talk page inadvertantly, please ignore it.) --Kudpung (talk) 22:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kettering

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Hi Grev02, The Kettering article is coming along fine. There are still some passages in the history section that are flagged for want of references. As you appear to have one of the best sources for information on the town, perhaps if you have time, you could look up and add some suitable citations.--Kudpung (talk) 07:49, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've copyedited much of the History section because it was still reading a bit like a book and still a bit too long. An encyclopedia need a very neutral, non-conversational prose style. You can see what i have done by comparing the edit histories, and if there is anything you don't approve of you can always discuss it and we can revert or change it. I have also cleaned up the way the references appear in the references section. There is no need to make Wikilinks in references because, for one, redlinks don't look nice, and secondly, Wiki is not a book review so it's unlikely that an editor will take the initiative to make articles out of them. --Kudpung (talk) 16:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Worcestershierre, Warwickshierre, and Everyshierre

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Hello Grev02! A non-British user seems to be attempting to suggest that the Brits are not pronouncing their own British place names correctly, and appears to believe that it is a policy of Wikipedia to instruct the Brits, through the use of the IPA, how British English should be pronounced. He/she also seems to be of the opinion that it is Wikipedia policy to regard British English by default as a rhotic language, which it is not. Some British Wikipedians are trying to avoid an edit conflict and have requested my support. I have added my comments to the debate the non-British user has has started in defence of his/her multiple, WP:BOLD? changes to IPA pronunciations of British place names. As a professional linguist I accord every version of English its own particular merits and my position here strictly concerns the way in which the IPA is interpreted and applied in the Wikipedia, and how the current policy may need to be changed through a truly representative consensus. If you would like to help resolve this issue, please see User talk:Kudpung#IPA, RP, etc. and User talk:Lfh#Warwickshire to get the background. Maybe you could then chime in with your views on the subject at Wikipedia talk:IPA for English#Rhoticity in place names. Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]