User talk:Hawkeye499

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Hello, Hawkeye499, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Zad68 18:43, 5 August 2013 (UTC)


Hi Hawkeye499. As you say, it is quite clear there is a "critical mass" of defensive editors on the circumcision page. That requires two things in order for balance and NPOV to be restored: 1) a second critical mass of editors (might only need a handful) with, 2) a good deal of free time. It requires that second group of NPOV editors to do the internet trawling for impartial links, evidence, and to add them in, and then defend them with argument on the talk page and with reversions if necessary. Enough supportive editors are needed for the "consensus" to stick, and those editors need to stick around in order to defend the impartiality long-term - otherwise it can all be undone in a few months' time.

In my younger days I used to do this sort of thing on wiki, but it can be laborious and tedious, and now I don't have the time or dedication to get involved in those battles any more! You may be able to trigger other NPOV editors to post and stick around by arguing persistently on the on the talk page, and also by looking through the historic archives on the page for other NPOV editors who complained in the past and asking if they are interested in working on the page (and also looking for good NPOV edits in the archive and edit-history that have been removed over the years). Good luck - if you are new to wiki getting involved in a good edit tussle will be a good learning experience for you ;-) Fig (talk) 20:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I am a new editor here. I would like to help create a more neutral position in articles relating to the Infants' and Children's Rights Movement, specifically in regards to the International Campaign for Genital Integrity. DavidHGrateful (talk) 03:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

A thought[edit]

Hi Hawkeye-- I see Fig gave you some advice. Before following it, you should review WP:BATTLEGROUND and decide whether the advice encourages behavior that is in line with the stated purpose of Wikipedia, or not. It is, of course, up to you to decide how to proceed from here. Zad68 00:43, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

I have never intended to use Wikipedia as a battleground. You've obviously not understood my messages in our discussions on Circumcision's talk page. I wanted more neutrality and balanced sources on the article; not to eradicate one point of view and replace it with another equally polarized one. Hawkeye499 (talk) 02:40, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Zad68, ask yourself if you were assuming good faith in that post, or if it was threatening a newbie. I personally find it conduct unbecoming, and points out the need for greater neutrality in the aforementioned article.

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