User talk:Hillview Nurseries

March 2021

Hello, I'm Anita5192. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Romance novel have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. — Anita5192 (talk) 17:39, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because your account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.
Provide a new username.

To do this, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

Please note that the new username you choose cannot already be taken and in use by another account. You can go here to search and see if the username you'd like to choose is available. If the search returns that no global account with that username exists, that means it is available to be taken.

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Spam for Hillview Nurseries and a Mr. Morey; spam for Hillview Nurseries and John Morey; spam for newnovel; more spam for newnovel and John Morey--I could go on. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is not only unjustified but also distressing.

My Username is 'Hillview Nurseries' purely for reasons of personal nostalgia - because it was the name of the smallholding in Blaby where I grew up and lived between 1950 and 1954. It is not my business and never has been. Wikipedia deals in facts; here are the facts.

My late father set up Hillview Nurseries in 1950 but sold it in 1954 to Estonian refugees. My family has had no connection with that operation since 1954 - for 69 (sixty nine) years - I left the area in 1970 in any case and I understand the land that it stood upon was purchased for the introduction of the Blaby Bypass on or around that time. I have no idea who has since owned Hillview Nurseries after we left - but it would have been forced to close on or prior to that time. IT SIMPLY DOES NOT EXIST.

ALL THIS WILL BE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD.

I am willing to use another Username if forced to, but I would rather keep it. You will see that my contributions are primarily centred on preserving the history of Blaby - notably the events, conditions and features present in the 1950's and 1960's when I lived there. NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THIS and, now at 77 years old, I may have little time remaining to share FACTS about the village that will, otherwise, be lost forever. You will be aware, from recent edits, that the information I have provided - with citations and proof - is genuine, verifiable, and, most of all, valuable in preserving the heritage of a unique example of Leicestershire's history.

Based on this factual evidence, will you please unblock me or, if not, make it easy and straightforward to over-turn the decision.

Thank you

John Morey

P.S. You refer to some content that you have deleted from the Romantic Novel page because of some policy infringement. I cannot recall what this might have been and have not double-checked. However, if this is, in fact, the case, all I can say is that I MAY (but I cannot recall exact detail) have added one of my romance novels to the existing listings of other authors and/or titles. If you consider THIS to be self-promotion, then I cannot challenge your view, other than to ask why other authors/novels can be listed with links to more information and/or assistance on how to buy them (i.e. advertising them) whereas my book(s) appear to be disqualified from appearing in such listings. If that is the case, is that fair?

P.P.S. If this relates to my website - newnovel.co.uk - then I suggest this does not change things, since the site carries instruction on novel writing as well as historical background to story-lines and context - to real locations and real events. It represents no more 'advertising' than existing references and links to other books and authors. Hillview Nurseries (talk) 20:40, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From my point of view your edits are not primarily centred on anything but promoting a website. You are welcome to place an unblock request, but if you cannot give your reasons for unblocking in a more concise manner then I don't have much hope for you. Finally, if I hadn't seen that this page had been edited I would never have seen your response; you might want to look at Help:Notifications. Drmies (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Hillview Nurseries (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Born in Blaby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

I was born in Blaby in 1946 and wish to publish genuine, valuable, informative facts related to the history and heritage of the village and its community - principally the 1950's and 1960's - to ensure important events and cultural features are not lost and forgotten.

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
1. understand what you have been blocked for,
2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 22:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarification - I now feel confident that I can become an asset to Wikipedia by understanding how to contribute unbiased, non-commercial, factual information to add to and enhance pages requesting additional content.

I respectfully ask that the following is taken into consideration in my appeal to over-turn the blocking of my account.

First it may be helpful if I clear up the misunderstanding and misconception suggesting that my original username 'Hillview Nurseries' is a business. It is not. I chose it because it was a one-time feature of the post-war Blaby local economy.

'Hillview Nurseries' was the name of the smallholding in Blaby where I grew up and lived between 1950 and 1954. It is not my business and never has been. Wikipedia deals in facts; here are the facts.

It USED TO BE a functioning smallholding owned by my father between 1950 and 1954, at which point he sold it to an Estonian refugee. From that point on my father, nor indeed I at any time in the future, had no commercial interest in it. It was closed and ceased operation - totally - in the 1970's when the Blaby Bypass was built across the land. This is a matter of public record and reference to the bypass is in Hansard.

I can understand why the username set off alarm bells, but now that I have explained the reasons for its choice, I hope it no longer remains a barrier to unblocking my account.

Going forward (hopefully) - and based on factual references directly relevant to Blaby and its infrastructure, posted by me previously but that have since been taken down - you will see that my contributions are primarily centred on preserving the history of Blaby - notably the events, conditions and features present in the 1950's and 1960's culture when I lived there.

NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THIS to any level of detail and, now as a 77 years old retiree, I may have little time remaining to share FACTS about the village that will, otherwise, be lost forever. You will be aware, from my recent edits and contributions, that the information I have provided - with citations and proof - is genuine, verifiable, and, most of all, valuable in preserving the heritage of a unique example of Leicestershire's history.

However, if required to moderate any of said references and edits - e.g. in case they are presented in such a way that contravenes the Wikipedia code and policies - of course I will happily do so.

I do notice that my previous references - and links - to the newnovel.co.uk website DID appear to cause concern. I accept that, although the site does not itself actual sell books directly, it does promote novels that I have written. I can cease referencing the website on Wikipedia (although I would stress that much of their content is based on historical events, facts and actual locations and characters in or from the area, albeit fictionalised, so they were relevant) - and also - there are extensive pages and articles that are instructional and scholarly, rather than commercial.

In my defense, naively it would seem, I thought I was merely following a convention adopted by other authors and publishers who ran pages and listings of their books. I hope that explains how and why I appeared to have fallen foul of that Wikipedia policy, and call for clemency.

Thank you for reconsidering my case and I look forward to a favourable outcome - for all parties.

John Morey Hillview Nurseries (talk) 23:34, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet Jesus. John Morey, no one is reconsidering your case unless you ask them to reconsider your case. Please a new unblock request, Learn how to notify other editors. As far as newnovel is concerned, just don't ever post something that has that in the URL. If you want to cite books, cite books that have been published by independent reliable publishers. So yes, of course we are interested in your contributions since we want all the places to be covered, and I'm glad you realize now that we have certain sourcing requirements and all that--but if you want your case reconsidered, please take the appropriate steps. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:18, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My last response - which I see went directly to you - was intended to be the actual, formal appeal. At the time there was no obvious place visible at the bottom of the talk page to 'add my reasons' inside a code as the instructions suggest. However, I have found 'a box' that I hope is the 'correct box', in which I have repeated my request to be unblocked, with reasons. Hillview Nurseries (talk) 10:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request to unblock username Hillview Nurseries

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Hillview Nurseries (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Thank you for clarification - I now feel confident that I can become an asset to Wikipedia by understanding how to contribute unbiased, non-commercial, factual information to add to and enhance pages requesting additional content.

I respectfully ask that the following is taken into consideration in my appeal to over-turn the blocking of my account. First it may be helpful if I clear up the misunderstanding and misconception suggesting that my original username 'Hillview Nurseries' is a business. It is not. I chose it because it was a one-time feature of the post-war Blaby local economy. 'Hillview Nurseries' was the name of the smallholding in Blaby where I grew up and lived between 1950 and 1954. It is not my business and never has been. Wikipedia deals in facts; here are the facts. It USED TO BE a functioning smallholding owned by my father between 1950 and 1954, at which point he sold it to an Estonian refugee. From that point on my father, nor indeed I at any time in the future, had no commercial interest in it. It was closed and ceased operation - totally - in the 1970's when the Blaby Bypass was built across the land. This is a matter of public record and reference to the bypass is in Hansard. I can understand why the username set off alarm bells, but now that I have explained the reasons for its choice, I hope it no longer remains a barrier to unblocking my account. Going forward (hopefully) - and based on factual references directly relevant to Blaby and its infrastructure, posted by me previously but that have since been taken down - you will see that my contributions are primarily centred on preserving the history of Blaby - notably the events, conditions and features present in the 1950's and 1960's culture when I lived there. NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THIS to any level of detail and, now as a 77 years old retiree, I may have little time remaining to share FACTS about the village that will, otherwise, be lost forever. You will be aware, from my recent edits and contributions, that the information I have provided - with citations and proof - is genuine, verifiable, and, most of all, valuable in preserving the heritage of a unique example of Leicestershire's history. However, if required to moderate any of said references and edits - e.g. in case they are presented in such a way that contravenes the Wikipedia code and policies - of course I will happily do so. I do notice that my previous references - and links - to the newnovel.co.uk website DID appear to cause concern. I accept that, although the site does not itself actual sell books directly, it does promote novels that I have written. I can cease referencing the website on Wikipedia (although I would stress that much of their content is based on historical events, facts and actual locations and characters in or from the area, albeit fictionalised, so they were relevant) - and also - there are extensive pages and articles that are instructional and scholarly, rather than commercial. In my defense, naively it would seem, I thought I was merely following a convention adopted by other authors and publishers who ran pages and listings of their books. I hope that explains how and why I appeared to have fallen foul of that Wikipedia policy, and call for clemency. Thank you for reconsidering my case and I look forward to a favourable outcome - for all parties. John Morey (Blocked account: Hillview Nurseries)

Decline reason:

If Hillview Nurseries is not the name of a current, existing business, technically it does not violate the username policy to use its name as your username. However, when others see your username, they are going to think it is the name of a current business, ask you about it, and possibly report it again. I think it would save you much grief to change your username, and I strongly encourage you to. You do not need to use your real name.

Note that Wikipedia is not a mere database of information or a mere historical record. Wikipedia exists to summarize what independent reliable sources say about a topic, in an encyclopedic style. Merely documenting the existence of businesses borders on original research unless the sources you offer discuss the influence of those businesses on the community of Blaby/Leicestershire- in which case you should be summarizing what those say and not telling how you view them. There are websites that exist to merely document things- Wikipedia does more. This is just free advice more than anything.

Please review conflict of interest with regards to editing about your own books, and tell us what will be different about your editing going forward. 331dot (talk) 11:47, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Concern regarding Draft:William Sercombe

Hello, Hillview Nurseries. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:William Sercombe, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:William Sercombe

Hello, Hillview Nurseries. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "William Sercombe".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:54, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Josh

I appreciate your contacting me. Really.

I have to admit, since my rejection and in such an arrogant and insolent, disrespectful manner ** - by others, not by you, Josh - I had rather given up on Wiki in terms of regarding it as being a source for credible information.

For instance, my previous edits sought to improve the listing of 'Blaby', by correcting errors submitted by others and by adding truthful and informational content.

(** e.g. To be addressed with 'Sweet Jesus...' could have been so insulting to anyone, were they devout and Christian.)

This was only heightened by the ridiculous insinuation that I was promoting a business, purely because I adopted a username (Hillview Nurseries) that was deemed commercial. It was a market garden that my father started in 1950, sold in 1954, and ceased to operate sometime in the 1960's. It's now the site of the village by-pass! I simply wanted to preserve the name for reasons of nostalgia in memory of my dear departed father.

Sure - please resurrect my account and accept my edits if you consider that measure to be appropriate. I'm not using Wiki to self-promote - I simply want to get the truth out there.

Aren't our aims and objectives therefore the same...? 2A02:C7E:30C8:2100:D028:2A53:515A:B399 (talk) 22:47, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]