User talk:Illinoisian

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Big ass warning type thing: You step to me on my user page, and I reserve the right to tell you to rack off, in any number of ways which may damage your ego. You act nice and civil here, and I'll do the same. Note, if you post random unhelpful shit, I will tell you to rack off as well. Be a jerk at your own risk.

Bottom Line: Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'!

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Regarding your contributions[edit]

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Minnesota state flag[edit]

Hey, what is that supposed to say on the "Minnesota state flag" you uploaded--"Little Canodia"? The maple leaf is cute. This, however, is meant to be a serious encyclopedia, so please don't do that. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 05:12, 23 July 2005 (UTC)


Image deletion warning Image:Illinois-map-straight-lg.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion.

No source specified, not used in articles, uploader has history of untrustworthy images. (SEWilco 05:38, 23 July 2005 (UTC))


Please avoid disruption and make articles useful for readers. (SEWilco 06:34, 23 July 2005 (UTC))

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you were just trying to experiment, then use the sandbox instead. Thank you. -- 03:06, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Take a break for a few hours. -- Curps 03:27, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Moderator on crack! WikiTroll User:Curps is pushing POV by banning me for reverting his deletion of my vote! Moderator on crack! WikiTroll! Illinoisian 03:49, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Republic of Illionois[edit]

Just thought I'd let you know that the Republic of Illinois lives forevermore at User:Redwolf24/Vandals. But don't do something like that again or face a block ;) Redwolf24 02:21, 20 August 2005 (UTC)


Thanks!!!1!two!!! El_C 21:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC)


Warning for what? Bite me. Looking at your edit history you're a troll, so stop trolling my talk page. Illinoisian 15:09, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

You have reinserted the patently false statement that Louisiana was demoted to a Federal Territory three times. The first time, you did so with the edit summary "", and marked it as a minor change. The second time, you did so with the edit summary "I believe the term is "w00t"? Or perhaps "oH nOess!!!!111oneone teh intarweb news!", and marked it as a minor change. The third time you did so with the edit summary "copyedit," and marked it as a minor change. This constitutes vandalism, and must stop. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Absolute bull, the claim was backed up by google news, and NO ONE has been able to refute it, google news still lists it, thus it needs to be listed here as well. Illinoisian 17:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
WP:AGF requires that I take this at face value, so I will. Google News is an aggregator, and is only as accurate as the cite that it links to. The article in question was written as satrical by the site in question. I have done the requisite research to determine that no such bill was passed by the senate. If you believe one was, you should be able to find the bill on thomas. Don't try - it's not there. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:26, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Since i can see that you have deleted the test3 given you just a bit earlier, and have vandalized a user page twice since then. --Darkfred Talk to me 16:39, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

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This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

I call bullshit, what user page have I "vandalized"? Illinoisian 16:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
In addition, I'd like to mention if you're talking about Kim, how the flying monkey fuck is leaving her a nice note Vandalism. Cease your persistant Wikistalking immediately or I'll be forced to RfAr you. Illinoisian 17:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Permanent block?[edit]

I wonder if this account should be permanently blocked as a vandalism-only account. Looking through the edit history, I see only vandalism, and arguing with other editors. Friday (talk) 17:12, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Get off my page, I've as much right to edit as you. My edits are either humorous, NOT VANDALISM, or trying to be truthful, checkout my google news source for the federal territory yourself. Illinoisian 17:14, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I did. It was satire, not a news piece. If you're honestly trying to contribute, you should be more careful, as it appears that several different editors have considered your edits vandalism. Friday (talk) 17:17, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
PS. Also, if you're honestly trying to contribute, you need to understand WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL. Friday (talk) 17:18, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
How do you come to the conclusion that it was satire? Google news doesn't do that shit. As for other editors thinking my edits are vandlaism, look at Hipocrites edits, he's in the same boat and no one is threatening him. Some how I've pissed off Gimpy and his legions and they've decided to swarm me, well they just need to rack off for a bit and stay the hell away with their Trollish 'tudes. Illinoisian 17:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
You're asking how I knew this link was satire? I don't see how you could possibly be serious. Friday (talk) 17:26, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
It sounds real enough for me, and google news posted it, furthermore I'd like to note there is some precident for demotion. And yes, I can be serious. Illinoisian 17:27, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Though the article states that Sen Landreau was kicked out of the sentate on September 5, on September 7 she was allowed to co-sponsor legislation - S.RES.235, A resolution to permit the solicitation of donations in Senate buildings for the relief of victims of Hurricane Katrina. Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:32, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Then you should have mentioned so on the fucking talk page of the article. What utter bullshit and trolling. You get my troll of the year award. Illinoisian 17:34, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
WP:NPA Hipocrite - «Talk» 17:37, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
You come on my talk page, accuse me of vandalism and trolling, and then cite WP:NPA when I point out your failings in the same areas? You got balls man. Final warning: Rack off Gimpy, and don't come back until you have learned to stop trolling my talk page. Illinoisian 18:48, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Re: PS., How am I not being civil? If people want to come here and threaten me, I will sure as heck tell them to rack off if they're being jerks. Illinoisian 17:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Editting Wikipedia is a privelege, not a right. Editting other people's user pages in a negative fashion is generally considered vandalism. Your attitude has thus far been detrimental to Wikipedia. If it continues, you're going to be blocked for a good long time. If you honestly can't see anything remotely offensive in anything you've written, I'd suggest you probably don't belong here. --Scimitar parley 19:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
What a wholely and absolutely unhelpful comment! Thank you oh so much Mr. Scimitar! Instead of offering helpful advice on how or why my edit to Kim's page, urging here to come back because she is in fact loved here and needed, could be offensive you decide to use the "If you don't know why, I'm not telling" approach! Wonderful! Now here is my advice to you, make helpfull comments or rack off my page! Deal? Illinoisian 19:43, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Addendum: I am perfectly aware I am not being civil here, but quite frankly if someone here decides to act like an ass towards me, I'm not going to treat him with respect either, maybe elsewhere on Wikipedia, but not on my user page. Illinoisian 19:48, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
      • You want specific case-by-case explanations? Here you go:
        • These edits are considered vandalism. User pages are often considered the users "face" on Wikipedia, and modifying them is generally viewed as offensive [1], [2]. Both were reverted.
        • Similarly, this edit belongs on the talk page, as in general you have no right to edit other people's user pages [3].
        • This edit [4] is ridiculous and not factual.
        • That's not even getting into your talk page, or your responses on the talk pages of others. Civility is a Wikipedia policy, and if you can't abide by it, you probably don't belong here, as I stated earlier.--Scimitar parley 20:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
El_C didn't revert his page, which you would notice if you looked. He kept the bear. The user at the second page didn't revert, some other bozo did. Zscout370 did revert, and asked me not to, I agreed and we had a discussion, very civil. As for Louisiana, up yours. I got that from google news and more ridiculous things could happen. ASSUME GOOD FAITH. As for civility here on my own freaking talk page, I refuse to be civil to people who aren't civil to me, simple fact. I would note many admins also use this policy. El_C and I have had a great relationship, ditto with Kim and Redwolf, why? Because they earned my respect by showing me respect. THAT is how it works. Elsewhere I am nothing but sunshine, gumdrops and cuppycakes. Here on my page, if you decide to be an asshat, I will put you in your place. Illinoisian 20:39, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
  • That's odd, but according to the edit summary here, he did revert. He later attached the bear because he has a good sense of humor- which doesn't make your actions right. As for respect, you'll deserve it when you earn it, not before. Frankly, I think the block is eminently justified. --Scimitar parley 22:35, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

This user has been permanently blocked for trolling, vandalism and personal attacks. Zoe 20:44, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Please contact Redwolf, I'd like his opinion on this matter. Illinoisian 20:45, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Thank you to Scimitar for informing me. I must say I support the block, after reading up above. Hipocrite may be/havebeen a troll, but you still said Louisiana was demoted to a territory after I told you to not do such a hoax as you did with Republic of Illionois, and I believe I threatened a block if you did. You did another hoax, and thus you must be blocked. Sorry Illinoisan. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:16, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hm, google news? Seems ridiculous, but my mantra is always to assume good faith, as long as the one doing the questionable thing has done something good, and yes, you have some good edits. I will not question the block, as I respect Zoe. So here's what to do if you want to be unblocked:
  1. Email Zoe, and don't have the email read OMGYOUBITCH I AMNOT A TROLL UNBLOCK M E NOW!!11. Pleade your case calmly, promise to be good, and you might get an unblocking
  2. Before you put anything like Louisiana being demoted, check some sources. Common sense, say in your head, "Something this big would be all over the news". Turn on CNN, is it there? If not, don't write it.
  3. If Zoe DOES unblock you, I will place you on a 2 month probation. And never attack users, even if they have had some trolling in the past, as you did above with Hipocrite. Think of it this way, if you're nice and they're not, you might just get the advantage ;) Redwolf24 (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I apologize, but I must insist that you show me where I have done anything remotely trolish on this project, or else I must insist on an apology. Hipocrite - «Talk» 00:57, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
Hipocrite I only know of you from your interactions with Agriculture. And those must not be a highpoint for you. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:12, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I have to vouch for Hipocrite, he patrols and as far as I have seen seems to always have the good of wikipedia in mind with his edits. He does tend to patrol some very trollable and controversial topics. He doesn't make POV edits and is willing to admit mistakes. The worst thing you could say about him is that he does get drawn in by these trolls occasionally. But as you can see in the above conversation at some point even the admins begin to take it personally. --Darkfred Talk to me 10:06, 9 September 2005 (UTC)