User talk:Koc2a885f

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Your submission at Articles for creation: KOL (Key Opinion Leaders) (September 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SafariScribe was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Koc2a885f! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question

The draft submitted is simply to get the topic started, I submit that the draft presented for review only contains factual information about the company, no opinions or subjective statements, so really any possible conflict of interest really should have no effect here.

In other words: where the company is located and who founded it are facts that will not change regardless of who submits the first draft for this page, wouldn't you agree?

Would it be possible for you to consider this Draft since it does not contain any opinions and it has references from reputable sources (Forbes and BusinessInsider)?

Thank you for considering, -- unsigned comment by Koc2a885f (talk · contribs)

The conflict of interest doesn't mean that your draft won't be considered. It has been, as you can see above. But you are required to disclose the nature of the COI, as explained in the Conflict of Interest policy. Please do so.

As the COI policy explains, the main thing about a COI isn't that you're banned from engaging with such topics (you aren't), but it does mean that any such article is likely to end up failing to meet Wikipedia's standards for neutrality. --AntiDionysius (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

Hello Koc2a885f. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Koc2a885f. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Koc2a885f|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Compensation

Sorry, but that is not accurate. I am not receiving compensation of any form, no salary, no bonuses, no contract work, nothing. I have received zero compensation from this company or any other company in the last 2 years. I am retired and don't work for anyone nor have worked for anyone in 2 years. I can attest to all these facts and will accept any legal consequences if I am not telling the truth.

Would you allow the draft to be published now that we have clarified that? -- unsigned comment by Koc2a885f (talk · contribs)

Your draft wasn't rejected because of the Conflict of Interest. It was rejected because you did not demonstrate the subject meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. --AntiDionysius (talk) 21:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]