User talk:Lone-078

Famine stela

When I saw this change I checked various sources and they said 32. I didn’t check the sources used bud I did check the first just now which is why I reverted you. Doug Weller talk 19:31, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hakor

Hello, I hope you are well. A source says that Hakor was the pharaoh of Egypt and Athena alan gardiner Egypt of the Pharaohs: An Introduction page 374 and book black athens page 212 can you return the scoure and thanks sir 102.190.165.254 (talk) 20:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@102.190.165.254: Hello. I have Gardiner's Egypt of the pharaohs in my hands right now. Hakor allied with Evagoras and thus also with Athens against the Achamenid Empire, but with the Peace of Antalcidas, Athens stepped down the alliance.

This means that during Hakor's reign, Egypt and Athens shared a short-lived alliance;
This does not mean that Hakor was automatically proclaimed "Pharaoh of Athens", as much as that Egypt wasn't automatically annected to the City-state of Athens.

That's it. About the second book, I believe you refer to Martin Bernal's Black Athena, a pseudohistory book which falls under WP:FRINGE, thus, unusable on Wikipedia. Farewell. Lone-078 (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Indeedd it may be right.. but I thought that mention the unity between Athens and Egypt might be useful in the encyclopedia There is no Egyptian colonization of Athens but a union under King Hakur Maybe you can describe it better than me and I'm sorry for the inconvenience and i wish to you every fine thanks.. 2C0F:FC89:F8:2653:9D7D:AA02:4645:79D0 (talk) 22:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About middle points

I see your changes to Osireion. Can you see a more balanced view on that paragraph? . If you are familiar , that sounds very disputed or nonsense. The temple is below water and the markings are incredible. Curious you want to silence that info. 88.4.56.11 (talk) 16:01, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

88.4.56.11 Wikipedia is not censored. However, is up to you to back your claims with reliable sources and avoid fringe views. Lone-078 (talk) 16:04, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plain thecnicality to delete real and important facts. I think here applys Wikipedia Common sense and has been discused on talk page, Sorry, i will revert. 88.4.56.11 (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plain failure to recognize the Wikipedia guideline, and a monologue on the talk page is not a discussion, nor is it gaining consensus. Lone-078 (talk) 15:56, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever. Blind science is boring 213.94.55.223 (talk) 15:30, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Horus

Hello mr Lone-078. Horus is also the egyptian god of Weather and loyalty. Since he is a Sky god he is also a Weather god and they are Sources. He is also the patron protector of loyalty which means he is also the god of it. 2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF (talk) 19:50, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2A02:587:1F04:9F00:8DFE:E5E7:6523:5CCF without sources he can also be the god of hot moms around me, that's original research; furthermore, you are no other than blocked user Akaora. Lone-078 (talk) 20:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptian Ogdoad.

The last two members of the Kemet (Egyptian) Ogdoad are not Amun and Amunet. They are Qerh and Qerhet. Amun and Amunet are part of the Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. Not the Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon. Amun and Amunet are a lesser hierarchy than Ra and Raet, the true hier and hieress of the Predynastic Pantheon. Also Father and Mother of the Dynastic Pantheon. Ra and Raet are other very important Kemet (Egyptian) Predynastic and Dynastic Gods and Goddesses. Yet Amun and Amunet are still very powerful and upon very high hierarchy within the Kemet (Egyptian) Pantheon. Ra and Raet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Sun. Amun and Amunet are the most powerful God and Goddess of the Moon. If that puts more in perspective. The Kemet (Egyptian) Primordial Pantheon (that includes Atum, Iusseset, and the Ogdoad) is more powerful than the Predynastic and Dynastic Pantheon. They are also the most powerful and highest hierarchial Gods and Goddesses in the universe. BastTheHieress (talk) 18:59, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's very simple: you changed the names of the gods but not the hieroglyphs which continue to refer to the previous names, and that's enough for me to revert your edit. Furthermore, these claims of yours need reliable sources that you have not included. Lone-078 (talk) 08:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you also do more research. I can assure you that Amun and Amunet are more associated with the Moon. Your OWN website previously included the names of Qerh and Qerhet. As I analyzed to be correct. Can you include the hieroglyphics that positively identify them as Amun and Amunet??? I was also not previously told to include reliable sources. There are many other website sources who positively identify Qerh and Qerhet as members of the Ogdoad. That is the only thing that I can think of right now to include but the web says many things that may not be reliable. Including your own. I will need to analyze literatures, hieroglyphics, and other sources to be able to name other sources than website. Once again can you please include hieroglyphical information that "positively identifies" them as Amun and Amunet, members of the Ogdoad, and how you came to these conclusions??? BastTheHieress (talk) 15:12, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also various website sources that I analyzed "openly" state that there is different sources that state different things in regards to the last members of the Ogdoad. Many other websites also name Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. Many of these same sites also openly state that they cannot or will not "definitively" identify Amun and Amaunet as members of the Ogdoad. As you claim. Due to various information, debates, and lack of clarity within identifications. I would at least better accept if you admitted and stated the fact that this information may not be definitive. Here is one website that supports my claim, but once again I can openly acknowledge that various sources DO provide various information. https://armstronginstitute.org/915-the-ogdoad-of-ancient-egypt-the-family-of-noah BastTheHieress (talk) 15:35, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted, it was changed without explanation by another editor. My apologies. Lone-078 (talk) 09:38, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I really learn a lot from your site and it is very helpful. I also value the truth. Glad it worked out.. BastTheHieress (talk) 15:19, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Abydos edit.

Apologies, the edit I had made referred to dating of when Abydos had ceded its political rank to Thinis. You have it mentioned within the Naqada III stage ((starting 3200BC)), but this to me is false, because Scorpion 1 was able to conquer Upper Egypt by the mid 33rd century by conquering Naqada and uniting with the royal house of Nekhen. This is attested by the dating of Narmers ancestry via dating and median rule for each predecessor of 15 to 30 years. This documentary puts the date of the unification of Upper Egypt in the 33rd century likewise. Visiting the Scorpion 2 page you will see references to this, where there is a time difference between Scorpion 1 and 2 of a near 200 years. Thus it is impossible that Abydos cedes a century after when Thinis had already penetrated the Nile Delta and unified Upper Egypt.

Here is the documentary:channel5_scorpion_king>Secrets of Egypt, Channel 5 TV program 2/8, "Scorpion King," 20 November 2008. Carminowe (talk) 19:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may make sense but I believe that when it comes to reliability, a TV documentary cannot overcome a printed book written by an Egyptologist. Lone-078 (talk) 19:45, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe so, but fur Carminowe (talk) 20:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

-ther evidence of the dating of this unification date by Scorpion 1 is the interpretation of Carminowe (talk) 20:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copy and paste error, apologies, Egyptologist Gunther Dreyer who deduces the existed of King Taurus of Naqada being conquered during this century by Scorpion 1. Carminowe (talk) 20:20, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anhur

If Greek equivalent is Ares, then Roman equivalent must be Mars, agreed?

No. the Greek equivalent is what a reliable source says. Lone-078 (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you agree that Ares is the Greek equivalent of the Roman god Mars?

I agree in what a reliable source says. Personal deductions aren't welcome on Wikipedia. Lone-078 (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not personal deduction, Wikipedia says that Ares is Mars. Check their pages.

That Mars is the equivalent of Ares means nothing on Anhur's article. You need a reliable source stating that Mars is the Roman equivalent of Anhur, and a reliable source stating that Ninurta is the Mesopotamian equivalent of Anhur. Simple as that. Lone-078 (talk) 19:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry...

...but when you reverted this you called it a good-faith edit, and I don't really see why. Drmies (talk) 16:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, here's my reasoning: an edit from a mobile device, most likely a smartphone but without using the Wikipedia app, edit doesn't look like a blatant vandalism, just a deletion of a portion of the infobox, no history of vandalisms by this IP. Maybe their finger just slipped, so I assumed good faith and reverted. Lone-078 (talk) 17:52, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neith page

Thank you for highlighting the need for a source in the Neith page, it was a mistake on my part that I forgot to re-add the source, I hope in the future that you may add the citation needed tag.

WP:CITENEED

Potymkin (talk) 15:25, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the sources as per request, please feel free to read from Encyclopedia sources or from the research conducted by the famous archeologist Camps (he is french) on Libya I have included the doi of the archeological research article entiteled Athéna Potymkin (talk) 15:38, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Potymkin opened a discussion at WP:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Neith. The moderator seems to lean toward a compromise describing Neith as a "North African deity". While that description is trivially true, I'm not sure I want to accept it—North Africa encompasses a lot more than just Egypt and Libya, and any encyclopedia would describe Neith as specifically Egyptian because that's where she's known from. I think "Egyptian and Libyan" would be a more specific descriptor if we really want to include Libya, but it's not clear to me whether any evidence demonstrates she was worshipped by Libyan people in Libya (the Western Desert), as opposed to Libyans who settled around Sais. What do you think? Am I being too stubborn? A. Parrot (talk) 01:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A. Parrot: On the one hand, maybe you are; on the other, it seems to me that Potymkin has repeatedly demonstrated the deliberate use of original research and synthesis to support his theses. The mediator's proposal is reasonable, although I personally remain of my opinion as I reported in the original discussion, something like "Neith [...] is an ancient Egyptian deity of possible Libyan origin", and add a section dedicated to discussing the possible origins of the deity and its cult. Last but not least, as you correctly report, "any encyclopedia would describe Neith as specifically Egyptian because that's where she's known from". I think this is an important point: why should Wikipedia report something different from other encyclopedias? Lone-078 (talk) 16:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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my edit on Iah

I recently made an edit to the page for the egyptian moon god Iah that you reverted and I would like to explain why I made that edit. I was aware beforehand that the image I used was technically one of Khonsu but it was very similar to how Iah was depicted and I prefer it if as many egyptian god pages had a vector as possible. there is a precedent for using a image made for another god on a page if they are similar enough. the image used for the god Anhur is technically an image of the god Shu but it is also very similar to how Anhur was depicted, on top of that as far as i can tell Khonsu was more often depicted as a falcon-headed man then as a mummified child. PharaohCrab (talk) 17:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PharaohCrab: I understand and appreciate your explanation. Regarding the issue I would like to ask the opinion of @A. Parrot: whose specialty is ancient Egyptian religion. Lone-078 (talk) 20:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iah's iconography doesn't seem to have been very distinctive, but it wasn't entirely the same as that of Khonsu. Wilkinson 2003 (p. 111) says: "…he is depicted as a standing man, often wrapped in the same manner as Khonsu, and wearing the same full and crescent moon symbols, though often these are surmounted by an Atef Crown with yet another disk above it. In addition to the divine beard, the god usually wears a long tripartite wig rather than the sidelock of Khonsu, and he may also carry a tall staff." So I don't think we should simply reuse the vector image of Khonsu. A. Parrot (talk) 21:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I looked but couldn't find any 2D images of Iah that looked like that. only a few that are almost identical to the image of Khonsu but not from antiquity. I also found 2 other examples of this phenomenon on the page for Amunet who has an image made for Neith, and Imentet who has an image made for Hathor. PharaohCrab (talk) 01:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't seem right to me to use the image of a similar, yet different deity without mentioning the issue in the caption. While I appreciate the quality and standardization possible thanks to the use of the usual vector images, I think that in these ambiguous cases faithfulness, if available, should have priority. Lone-078 (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I actually have made a few vectors like this one I could certainly make on of Iah if I could find a tomb painting or something to Base it off of, or I would if my county school system didn't block Wikimedia commons for no reason yesterday PharaohCrab (talk) 18:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]