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Archive number 1 of my talk page, created on February 11 2006.

My welcome message

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Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Hope you like it here, and stick around.

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Meelar (talk) 18:55, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Portugal

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Um artigo na wikipedia tem um limite máximo e um livro de estilo a ser seguido. Coloca a maioria dessas coisas em Music of Portugal. Ao contrário do fado, o que adicionaste é irrelevante para o país, a maioria dos nomes que colocaste nem sequer conheço. Por que vai um estranjeiro querer saber? Visita a parte de community para mais informação. Se não corrigires, corrijo eu. -Pedro 23:35, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Além de o que estás a adicionar ter muito pouco haver com aquela secção, o que tás a adicionar é história e não uma musica tipica portuguesa. -Pedro 23:37, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)~

A imagem que adicionaste tem copyright? Não se pode adicionar nem imagens com copyright, nem colocar textos de outros sites, tens que fazer um artigo original, vê mais em Policies and Guidelines. -Pedro 23:40, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

O que lá coloquei refere-se a um estilo de música de intervenção bem característico do sul da Europa e que marcou gerações do mesmo modo que o fado. Podes eventualmente mover aquilo para a secção mais abrangente da música portuguesa, reconheço a questão da falta de espaço, não entendo no entanto que te preocupes com aquele bocado e não com o restante. Espero de resto, a tua preocupação não se deva à tua ignorância de nomes bem conhecidos. Quanto à imagem aconselho-te a guardares a tua preocupação.


  • A preocupação é da comunidade da wikipedia. Desculpe se pareci estupido, é que tentei por os samples num sitio em condições e você deslocou. :S Só se pode adicionar fotos suas ou de que tenha autorização ao abrigo da GNU FDL ou seja de dominio publico. O link da musica tb tem que remeter para um site que não use tenha essa musica integralmente ou a tenha legalmente. Aliás esse tem sido o meu maior problema. O artigo não foi nomeado por ter a parte de History e culture muito grande. Ao que tem recebido cortes sucessivos. O objectivo é diminuir mantendo o mais importante. Conheço alguns, mas não os acho relevantes e são pouco actuais (não fazem parte da minha vivencia, tenho 25). Poderia mover para a parte de Music of Portugal ou para Culture of Portugal, se o material é seu por favor adicione. Os artigos são avaliados pelo tamanho das secções. Esses artigos precisam da sua ajuda. Pelo que notei tem um grande conhecimento da cultura portuguesa e seria bom usar nesses artigos para que cheguem ao nivel do Portugal.
  • O artigo portugal tem novos problemas na parte politics, por causa da politica recente cresceu demasiado. A questão do Carnaval é uma questão muito complicada, acho que o seu edit está bom. -Pedro 23:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Aconcelho-o, tb, a visitar e usar a wikipédia em lingua portuguesa. -Pedro 23:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • Pois, o homem já morreu (Zeca Afonso), mas este pessoal na wikipedia é muito certinho, ele não tem familia? Alguém deve ter os direitos de autor dele. É preciso ver isso, reconheço que é uma chatice! Mas ha ideias para por isto em papel, oferecer a paises pobres, etc. e tem que se manter no "ar" (nos cabos...). Logo tem que estar tudo legal. Mesmo com imagens publicas, já tive problemas. Se a foto é mesmo dominio publico meta {pd} na imagem. Se estiver ao abrigo da licença FDL, meta dentro das chavetas FDL. Se é sua, meta o que quiser. Mas tem que meter ou FDL com o seu copyright ou PD.
  • A verdade é não sei se reparou mto do artigo portugal tem muita coisa que não se escreve normalmente, e, pelo menos eu, a editar tento fazer isso. Tento dar uma imagem diferente, mas do Portugal que conheço. A maioria das coisas que leio, é de um pais que não conheço. Ou tento mostrar algo que seja unico a portugal, o fado cai que nem uma luva, os jogos tradicionais, o jogo do pau, etc. Acho que é o que um leitor internacional mais procura, informação e coisas unicas e tipicas do povo do lugar. Esse tipo de musica que escreve deve ser mais comum no sul, aqui no norte, são um bocado "underground". Tem haver com diferenças norte-sul. Quanto ao Carnaval continuo com duvidas, é que eu recebo a dobrar se trabalhar no carnaval. Mas pelo que sei, o Carnaval é mesmo um feriado obrigatorio no caso de não haver feriado local, mas isso tem caido em desuso, já que é celebrado em todo o país. (assine os seus comentários com -~~~~ vai aparecer o seu nome e hora UTC. -Pedro 00:34, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Samuele de Gaunt

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Thanks. I think the vandals are just a couple of kids using the school computer. (The IP address is run by Trafford Council, so it's probably either a school or a library.) Like most kids, they've got a lot of creativity and a lot of enthusiasm and energy, but they don't know how to harness it. P Ingerson 09:15, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Re: Mação

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Sorry about that! My dumb mistake; I guess I wasn't really paying attention... Thanks for fixing it. Shane Smith 17:46, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Communist Party

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I am cleaning up the page, as you requested. I am thinking that since the party still exists today, I think the page can be formated a bit differently. Zscout370 (talk) 00:58, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Venho aqui intimá-lo a registar-se de imediato na wiki.pt e a partilhar com a wikipédia-lusófona as boas contribuicoes que tem vindo a fazer na wikipédia-bifa! Estamos à sua espera e sim, isto é um rapto. muriel@pt 09:03, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WOW! MAN! YOU ROCK! thanks for the complete discography!!!

Project2501a 15:19, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

::replies::

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es possible. i've never heard of the rose as a symbol of socialism, except, i think, the labour paty in britain. do you think it might be a stylized variant? maybe we should e-mail the socialist international and see what they have to say. gaidheal 00:17, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Penalty shootout

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I know, which is why after reverting I rewrote the sentence to clarify it - it now reads reach the number of goals scored rather than score them. Qwghlm 23:36, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Image deletion warning The image Image:Zeca afonso 25 abril.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it will be deleted. If you have any information on the source or licensing of this image, please go there to provide the necessary information.

Portuguese coat of armas

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Please report commons:Category:Portuguese crests before upload more portuguese CoA to wikipedia.

Portuguese groups

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Hi, i've been working on trying to set-up articles on the, often confusing, portuguese far left. I have a few questions I would like help with:

LPMCOTW

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Hi,

have a look at Wikipedia:Leftist Parties and Movements Collaboration of the Week. --Soman 20:31, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Avante!

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Oi,

eu sou o utilizador Eduardo Pinheiro (nick Epinheiro) da wikipedia portuguesa. Era só para te gabar o belo trabalho que vi em alguns conteúdos que editaste e perguntar se não poderias dar um contributo similar na página portuguesa do Avante!

Também estudo na universidade e sei o q é esta vida...mas acho que era uma contribuição desse nível seria muito muito bem vinda (Eu assino e certamente muitas mais pessoas e utilizadores)!

Já agora, tens login na wikipedia portuguesa? Porque não dar uma mãozinha...

Bom trabalho e abraço 193.137.47.117 22:56, 3 October 2005 (UTC) (=pt:Usuário:Epinheiro)[reply]


Hey, No problem! It was actually a lot of fun (I had no idea that's where the phrase "workers of the world unite!" came from -- so educational!) and a good introduction to the community. Your English is great (I'm just picky...). chriss 22:24, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Humble request for an expansion of a Wikipedia article

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Hi, I am looking for people who would know more about, or have more information about the last Portuguese governor of Macau. I am unable to find any substantial information on him in English. I apologize for the direct request, and if you are not able to work on the article, I completely undertand. However, I would be most grateful for any information that you could contribute. Obrigado! Indiana Fats 16:22, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PT

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Gostaria de convidá-lo a participar na edição em português da Wikipédia, estamos sempre a precisar de mais contribuidores ;)

Caso se encontrar interessado as suas edições serão bem-vindas!

Cumprimentos, Get_It 17:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

vote

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Hi, please vote at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 November 6 concerning Category:Stalinists. --Soman 19:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for uploading Image:Jose Afonso, Cantigas Do Maio.gif. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the image also doesn't have a copyright tag then you must also add one. If you created/took the picture then you can use {{gfdl}} to release it under the GFDL. If you can claim fair use use {{fairuse}}. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by going to "Your contributions" from your user page and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. --Agnte 15:16, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Jose afonso cravo na mao.gif Has also been put up for speedy deletion Agnte 23:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese presidential election, 1986

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I want to know why did you made this change [1] in the percentages of votes. The data was correct and now I don't see how did you made the calculations. (Please reply in my PT.WP talk page) --Bigs slb 05:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that you same similar changes in the other presidential elections. --Bigs slb 05:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PCP

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Sorry that I wiped your edit when I made my copyedit; I was short of time and decided it would be quicker to force my edit despite the edit conflict and then reapply your changes than it would be to reapply mine. I then ran out of time reapplying your changes, but they're back now.

"Responsibles" is not a word in English. There is no noun "responsible", which is why I substituted "leadership". Since that doesn't convey your meaning, perhaps it could be worded "those responsible for" instead?-gadfium 00:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, ok, sure, I didn't know that. Let's do that. Thanks! Mário 10:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Communist Party

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The classification of Salazar's regime is questionable and a controversial issue, but it had several fascist characteristics, in the same way that many non-communist regimes are regarded as communist, why can't be the portuguese regarded as fascist? Was Franco a fascist? I think it was. You can be considered a fascist if you have a militia and a political police, like PIDE, if you support corporativism, if you take communism as the country's biggest enemy as Salazar did, if you have only one party, if you send troops to aid Franco in the spanish civil war along with Italy and Germany, if you have a concentration camp for political prisoners, Tarrafal, if you call your national day the "day of the race", if you send 10.000 soldiers to die in colonial wars, just to keep the empire in the 1970s, etc... Every member of the resistance is called anti-fascist in Portugal. Their organization is the Union of the Portuguese Anti-fascists, the "fascist regime" is present everyday.

But anyway, if that is the only objection to the FA status, I can change fascist for right-wing dictatorial or something, and anti-fascist for "member of the resistance". Thanks anyway for your work on the article. Mário 00:01, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear from the above: are you asking for my personal view or are you asking what I think Wikipedia should say? Personally, I define fascism broadly enough to include both Franco and Salazar. Personally, I think it's too bad they got to live out their lives as free men and to die in their beds. But it is not Wikipedia's role to opine and condemn, but to narrate facts and to indicate the range of well-informed opinion. And scholars vary in their views of whether Salazar and Franco should be considered fascist. So we should report that.
By the way, I did not say I had thoroughly studied the article and that I was sure it is almost ready to be featured and that I have only one issue with it. In fact, I merely skimmed the article, made some copy edits, and had this issue leap out at me which I felt was large enough that it should be addressed before it could possibly be appropriate to feature the article.
Do let me know if and when this change is made, and I will withdraw my objection. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:17, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest that you look at the article on Salazar and see how the matter is handled there. I'm not asking you to weasel down and tone down an epithet; I'm asking you to indicate more of the complexity of the situation. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Alfonso. It's very awkward being an activist reviewer of FACs, because people put a lot of work into them. I'd like to edit every nomination, but I just haven't the time, and I have too much paid editing to do more than critique small portions from nominated articles. My objectives are to raise the standards of FAs, and indirectly, of all WP articles by the example they set. To do this, I need to critique as many nominations as I can, in limited time.

I do sometimes edit whole nominations—those that I'm particularly interested in, and those that are put forward by people I know.

The fact that yours is rather long is a further problem here.

Tony 13:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]