User talk:MAG2024

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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, MAG2024. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Magnopus, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 2024

Hello MAG2024. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to Magnopus, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:MAG2024. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=MAG2024|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for messaging me about this, I didn't mean to do anything non-compliant. I have moved the article to drafts. I hope that is the best way forward? Can I now go through the articles for creation process? MAG2024 (talk) 10:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thanks for moving this to drafts. I have added the AfC template for you; when you feel you're ready to have your draft reviewed, just click on that blue 'submit' button.

Thanks also for disclosing your employment status. However, you've done that in an edit summary, and while that is indeed an acceptable method, it is IMO the least obvious one, and may cause others to come here querying your status unless they happen to notice that comment. May I suggest therefore that you also place either the {{Paid}} template on your user page, or the {{Connected contributor (paid)}} one on the draft talk page, as these are the two locations where most editors would look for a disclosure.

Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your help. I believe I have now gone through the proper process and the draft has been submitted for review. I have added a disclosure on the Draft Talk page. I am hoping I have done it all correctly now? MAG2024 (talk) 11:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It was the correct template, in the correct place, I just removed the <nowiki> wrappers around it, so that the template fires as intended. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'm learning a lot today! MAG2024 (talk) 11:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article has been declined and I wondered if I may ask you for some advice on how to move forwards? MAG2024 (talk) 09:20, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, you shouldn't think of this as a company 'profile' or 'brochure'; that's always going to be turned down. You need to think of this as an encyclopaedia article, which merely describes (in purely factual, neutral terms) your company and what makes it noteworthy. Just be warned, this is actually much more difficult than it sounds, because your natural tendency will be to make your company 'look good', and even if you resist that temptation, your boss will probably insist on it. (Speaking of which, you may wish to show your boss this, and also read it yourself: WP:BOSS.)

Moreover, articles should be drafted by summarising what independent and reliable secondary sources have said about the subject, not what the subject wants to tell the world about itself. The process goes as follows:

Find a few (3-5) sources that fully meet every aspect of the WP:GNG standard. Note that this excludes routine business reporting (M&A, appointments, partnerships, new locations, financial results, etc.), passing mentions, anything based on press releases and other publicity materials, anything where someone from the company is being interviewed or commenting on other matters, as well as any primary sources.
Summarise in your own words (= no copypasting), but without adding any 'spin' or embellishment, what they have said about what makes your business influential or cutting-edge or otherwise noteworthy.
Cite each source against the information it has provided.
You can then supplement this with purely factual, non-contentious information from your company website or similar sources, if you wish to add things like year of founding, location of HQ, etc., but nothing more than that.

This gives you the appropriate content, referencing, and the necessary evidence of notability all at once.

HTH, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that does help! Is it best to edit the current draft or start again? MAG2024 (talk) 10:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's better to edit the current one, because we can only consider one draft on any given topic, so while this exists any new ones would be declined on the basis that they duplicate this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Magnopus (May 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gobonobo was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This reads like a brochure for the company and not like an encyclopedia article.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Magnopus and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

gobonobo ⁺ ^c 22:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MAG2024! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! gobonobo ⁺ ^c 22:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Put a paid editing template on your user page

Hello, would you please place a paid editor template on User:MAG2024? You can review WP:PAID#How to disclose for instructions on what to do. It's pretty simple. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. MAG2024 (talk) 20:44, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I fixed the template for you. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]