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Translated Image FPC

Thanks so much for your translation here! I am taking the image to FPC, and would be delighted if you would share credit and conominate the candidate with me. Can you head over here and sign the nomination? Cheers, — Jake Wartenberg 21:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello there. Thank you for dropping me a line and giving me the opportunity to sign up as a conominator. It's an honour. The real credit on the translation should go to all the members who keeps the Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan going on; without their efforts, I would have not encountered your great work, too. Please do me a favour if you can still replace the top line of the translation, specifically the title to "Nihon manzai" instead of "Nippon banzai". It was pointed out by Oda Mari as a better headline because that's the wording used in the National Diet Library of Japan, and I totally agree to it. Congratulations to your work, and good luck! Thank you, Mantokun (talk) 12:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

FYI

Hi! Your translation was really wonderful. I found an interesting site. See 小林清親, 百撰百笑 or 屠露気武者 in their data base. As you pointed out, they say the title is a pun. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 09:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, hi. Thank you for your dropping by and letting me know about the site. Now there's one good reason to think I wasn't too wrong for at least one part, so I can sleep better ^.- Isn't it a serious site! And it is even in Japanese, from Wien - impressive. I could not detect that site while I was doing the translation, but what I did bump into was this one [1]. Once a writer of propaganda satires, the author of the text, 骨皮道人 or Mori, was later on fired from an editor position at certain magazine, charged of lese-majeste. It sounds like he was too good at satire --- what an irony. Mantokun (talk) 13:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Forces returning 2.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. MER-C 08:29, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Favor

I want to promote List of number-one albums of 2008 (Japan) to a WP:FL status but I need some one to translate the title of references into English. So, if you can do that I'd appreciate it. I asked on the talk page of WP:JAPAN but one answered so I thought I'd give it a try and ask you. Thanks. ~Moon~~Sunrise~ 01:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for your visit. It's not that I overlooked your post over there; I did take a look at your refs, and it overwhelmed me -- and since I am not particulary well informed of the music scene, I did't want to overcommit myself. Well, nevertheless, I did it now and placed the translations here. You can take it from here, and feel free to correct my Engrish as needed. Pleaese note that the alphabet spelling of the artist names and tunes may not be correct; also, macronnization is ignored, so apply them where necessary, too.
While most of the headlines were simple ones, some were not clear on its own so I went check the articles. It's kind of impressive how these people invent "a first time" by adding factors like "for a female", "for a group", "in her thirties", and so on. I bet one day they will create a "first time ever" title won "on his birthday when his wife forgot to hug him, bla bla bla."
Cheers --Mantokun (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
LOL that is so true. Thank you for translating I really do appreciate. When I saw you replied I thought you turned me down like the others that I had asked. ~Moon~~Sunrise~ 04:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Murō-ji

I'm puzzled by this edit of yours. Although I haven't seen the book, I believe that its title is The Muro-ji, an eighth century Japanese temple: Its art and history. This is what Copac (for example) says. Is there really a macron there? (Have you seen the book? Or what evidence do you have for the macron?)

(Whether the name should be spelled with a macron is of course a different question.)

Whether or not there's a macron on the "o" of "Muro-ji", it also seems odd to link a name within a title. Or it seems odd to me, anyway. -- Hoary (talk) 16:08, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. Thank you for pointing that out. I rather did the change as a part of systematic macronning and wikifying. I have no real insistence on how it has to be, but just in case, let's take this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan so that we can invite others to comment, as it seems a little complicated. --Mantokun (talk) 17:56, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks again for self-reverting in the book title. As for the name of the temple (I mean, outside possibly regrettable book titles, quotations, etc), we both agree that it's not ムロジ and I warmly support your efforts to get it right wherever possible. -- Hoary (talk) 01:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks to you too for stopping by. Clear and logical explanations were provided and that's all what I needed - especially because I thought it's likely there will be a similar case in the future, I took it to WPJ:Talk: not only to ask for comments from more people, but to share the case to the community over there. Sure, I knew you weren't talking about the Japanese pronunciation from the very beginning - it was my clumsy summary that misled others, so don't be angry at them, please. --Mantokun (talk) 13:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Well Mantokun, I'll tell you who I'm angry with, and that's not our learned friends at WP Japan, it's Dell, that's who. 新宿西口ヨドバシカメラマルチメディ館 (the biggest [physical] computer store I can be bothered to go to, and probably one of the biggest in the world), now only sells laptops with Japanese-market keyboards (which I happen to dislike), and only those with either Windows (no thanks) or Mac OS (which runs on keyboards that I happen to dislike). (The "duck test" tells me that this is a trade monopoly, but then I don't possess an MBA and therefore don't appreciate the subtleties of the "freedom" of the "free market".) Online, Dell Japan condescends to sell laptops with US keyboards and/or (for a very few models) Ubuntu. So I've spent one whole hour attempting to order one online. Three times I've almost reached the end to find that their idiot server has done this or that cock-up. (Twice longwinded and boring error pages, once the terse An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #30.6b0fe3c.1240322875.fc096db.) Thus I have selected all the options (faster CPU, bigger hard drive etc etc) and given the delivery address and the billing address and say that no I shan't be using the thing for launching missiles and no it's not going to end up in North Korea -- I've done all of that three blood-dripping times. I'm now back where I started. No I'm not, I'm worse than where I started: I've wasted ages and I see no way to buy the damn thing. ¶ Now, what was the issue -- to macron or not to macron? Hardly a question to have me punching the screen, stamping on the floor, or cursing some company started and run by a major bankroller of George W Bush. -- Hoary (talk) 15:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
PS: Amazing, having tried again, and having again promised neither to use it for guiding missiles nor to send it to North Korea, I actually succeeded in buying a "Wintel" computer without paying Microsoft for stuff I don't want. So I'm in a pretty good mood now. -- Hoary (talk) 00:33, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
LOL. The last time you already made me spill out shochu I had slurped and this morning my coffee over my keyboard. So point me to the right one I should file a complaint: is it Dell, Windows, Ubuntu or maybe User:H? --Mantokun (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Favor

Hi, Mantokun, and thanks for the good work you do. I have a favor to ask. I noticed that you do work on Buddhist temples. Could you add the following line to the "See also" section" of articles on the subject you create? It's about a Glossary you have already contributed to. Thanks.

  • For an explanation of terms concerning Japanese Buddhism, Japanese Buddhist art, and Japanese Buddhist temple architecture, see the Glossary of Japanese Buddhism.

urashimataro (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello there, thank you for coming. You did the great job compiling the glossary, and I thought it's worth adding it to articles so that's what I did with Kōfuku-ji -- and then forgot to do so with the articles I created myself *sigh*.
Anyways, it's a good idea to add it. I've got one suggestion; why don't we reorganize the sentence just a little like:
The idea behind is to bring the "link" portion as close to the beginning as possible, and to make the accompanying sentence as compact as possible, especially for short-tempered or "busy" readers (feel free to correct my sentence). Thanks, --Mantokun (talk) 01:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
PS Maybe there won't even be a need for "See the" at the beginning, because this is going to be placed under "See also" section, and other entries would generally be just a link, occasionally with a couple of words, like:
(imaginary example)
=See Also=
* Glossary of Japanese Buddhism, for an explanation of terms concerning Japanese Buddhism, related art, and temple architecture.
* Soga clan, a powerful supporter of Buddhism in the period.
* Tori Busshi

--Mantokun (talk) 01:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Mantokun. Rewriting the sentence is a good idea (and I will) but, alas, I have already pasted the old version in most temple articles. I will change it to what you propose as soon as I can. Feel free to do it yourself when you can. urashimataro (talk) 04:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that too must have been a full load of work. It's not a problem, whenever we find something new to add to those existing articles, then we can compact the See also line at the same time. No rush there. --Mantokun (talk) 13:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

en-1

Hi. I noticed for a while now that the en-1 babel tag on your userpage seems quite misleading. I would put you at least en-3. At least, I haven't seen anything to indicate you are not fluent in English, but I may be mistaken. --C S (talk) 19:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for dropping me a line on that. Well, I knew I'm not a native; I also knew (or hoped?) I wasn't en-0. En-5 or even en-4 appeared to me to be levels that are not easily distinguished from native level (if not impossible), to which I clearly do not belong anyways. Then, on the the other hand, levels 1-3 are only separated by invisible or indistinguishable borders (by oneself, to a non-native like me), so I'd simply put it "1". Since it's not my intention to mislead people in any way but it was only to tell I am a non-native, maybe I should simply lift the en classification from the listing and let others judge on that by seeing what I write. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. Cheers --Mantokun (talk) 12:20, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle

Hi! I recommend you to use Twinkle as a helpful tool if your browser is FireFox, Camino, Safari, or SeaMonkey. It makes easy to request AfD or speedy deletion and revert vandalism. Cheers! Oda Mari (talk) 14:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Hidy. Thank you for your suggestion. I actually tried once to put Twinkle option on in my FireFox, and I got too scared with the number of tabs it added on my browser so I took it off right away... (^^; I better give it another try someday tho. Thanks! --Mantokun (talk) 04:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Don't be shy to use it. But as you can customize Twinkle, it's better to install manually, instead of activating it in the Gadgets section of your Preferences page. The tabs are there to help you, definately not to scare you. When you find any article for AfD next time, try to use it. All you have to do is click the xfd tab and choose the category and type the reason for AfD and click. Twinkle does everything for you. You can cancel it after you click the tab if you change your mind. And then, don't forget to add {{subst:delsort|Japan|~~~~}} to the AfD page. If you want to know more about TW, just ask me. Oda Mari (talk) 06:44, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Akishige Kaneda

Hello and thank you for your kind note about this article. My understanding is that Kaneda has only appeared on the substitutes' bench for Ehime FC (with zero minutes of actual playing time). I don't read Japanese, so perhaps I've made a mistake, but the other players listed at that website have 1 or more minutes while Kaneda has zero minutes. If you agree, I will sent the article to AfD, however, please let me know if you think he has really played in several matches so I can update the article. Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 19:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello there. Yes, you are perfectly correct that Kaneda has only appeared on the bench so far, not yet on the pitch. I am not a greatest fan of football to tell you the truth, but still felt that GK subs are precious reserves that will be sent out on to the pitch only when really needed (something like a sub catcher in baseball, but I may be totally wrong.) So, if the notability test of having "played" is judged strictly against whether one has appeared on the pitch, not including the bench, I have not more to say. But, because he is the only GK sub in the game, chances are that he'll come up sometime during the season. With that all said, the article is so stubbish. I'll let you decide at your option whether to take it to AfD now, or wait, or otherwise. Cheers, --Mantokun (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I've decided to send it to AfD - see below. Jogurney (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2009 (UTC)