User talk:MushuNeak

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Welcome to Wikipedia, MushuNeak! Thank you for your contributions. I am Rubbish computer and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Your e-mail

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Justincoope.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to be unblocked, you should use your Talk page. E-mailing me is inappropriate.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:23, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you - I thought I read in a Wikipedia article that emailing you was the correct approach; my apologies. Below is my response:

I saw your message on my talk page, and read through the conversation on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Justincoope/Archive carefully. It looks like attention to the accounts was brought up by an unrelated issue, and that all the accounts were blocked because they share an IP address. I don't see any explanation beyond that. What should be done to prove that the accounts each belong to real people? I've read this article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending_yourself_against_claims - and many others, but I don't see any process for this. As far as I can tell, no violation or disruption of Wikipedia policy has occurred here, and I'd like to clear up the sockpuppet accusation so I can continue to be a Wikipedia member in good standing. MushuNeak (talk) 17:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting Unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

MushuNeak (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hello! Four of the people flagged as sock puppets, myself included, would like to try to prove we're not sock puppets - which is why we were blocked (via a shared IP address). We'd like to prove this in two ways:

We are all posting our appeals to this block at the exact same time, from four different IP addresses (our respective homes). This allows a confirmation of IP addresses via checkuser.
We've included a detailed explanation of our accounts and why they're editing from the same IP address and other possible concerns. This is as follows:

Why are there so many accounts with similar activity contributing from the same IP address?

The four of us (MushuNeak, Draketo, Dragon-360, and TieBroune) work together, for a company called Dragon360 (which was known as DragonSearch until about two weeks ago) in a shared office space in Kingston, NY. I have, in the past few years, become increasingly interested in learning and contributing to Wikipedia, and have been actively self-educating within Wikimedia Commons in general. In the past year and a half or so, I've also been teaching my coworkers how to do it, and my company has been encouraging us to improve our skills by adopting Wikipedia pages and editing them, as well as creating new pages, and being involved in deletion discussions. We do this both in our spare time and recreationally at work during allocated self-learning time (or "innovation time").

Are we disrupting Wikipedia?

Draketo, Dragon-360, TieBroune, and I have been researching topics thoroughly before writing about them. I've been doing my best to provide guidance on best practices and offering advice (on Wikipedia guidelines, formatting, and neutrality) before anything was published live, and we do our best to only publish things that won't drain more experienced editors' time as we learn. To that point, if you review our edits, I'm certain you'll see that none of the edits we've provided are disrupting or damaging Wikipedia. Every edit, big and small, has been made with positive intent and good faith to build up each page, respectively, and enhance the credibility of the edited pages. We are also careful to not edit pages as a group, which would violate "meat puppet" guidelines. It's a learning process, but we've been proud of our contributions, and they seem to have been welcomed, before this block, by the community.

Are we being paid to edit?

Recently, Dragon-360 posted on his talk page his intention to try out paid edits. But please bear in mind that no paid edits have actually been done yet, and before updating the talk page, he's carefully researched many Wikipedia-based articles and essays on policies related to this. Furthermore, Dragon-360 was clear of his intention on the page and has tried to comply with full disclosure guidelines.

Are there any other concerns?

If so, we're happy to share as much information to help this as we can. Just let us know on our talk page(s), and we'll follow up.MushuNeak (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I have reviewed the contributions and found that you have engaged in coordinated, promotional edits in violation of WP:MEAT and WP:SPAM. For this account in particular, "misrepresentation of sources" can be added. I also find it very difficult to believe that these coordinated promotional edits, conducted by employees of a social media advertisement company, were not paid for. Huon (talk) 03:18, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You all got together

and decided to edit from home. Sorry, but you seem to have been coordinating edits at work. Now coordinating edits from home. You need to reread WP:sock, as this is still sockpuppetry. And I infer you are all working together per WP:PAID. Sorry, nope.----Dlohcierekim (talk) 17:58, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Dlohcierekim:,

You seem to have been coordinating edits from work. Now coordinating edits from home.

As I mentioned earlier, Draketo, Dragon-360, Tiebroune, and myself are all employees of Dragon360, who are all interested in learning and contributing to Wikipedia. We decided to coordinate the submission of our unblock request from our homes, to prove that we are four, real individuals. Based on our research, it was our understanding, proving we work from separate IP addresses would not violate any guidelines. It sounds like perhaps we may have missed something. If you could point me to what we missed, it would be greatly appreciated.

I infer you are all working together per WP:PAID.

When we are at work, we are sometimes “on the clock” while editing. We have completely flexible work schedules (non of us work the 9-5) and we also have what is called innovation time, where were can spend time developing whatever skill we wish to develop - typically this time gets spent on Wikipedia. We are not being paid for edits, nor being directed to edit anything specific. The goal is to let us practice and learn and help guide each other.

Please let me know if there is any other information you need. MushuNeak (talk) 20:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, y'all. Nothing I can do as it was a WP:checkuser block. I think we have a pretty clear picture, anyway. You might want to reread the guide to appealing blocks, but.... It's a pity, 'cause you write very well. Well, good luck.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]