User talk:Neo Neuromancer

J stack page and learning to work with Wikipedia via mentors and feedback

Hi, you seem like you might be new. Here's a little feedback. The first source you used was a blog. A few blogs are ok, when the source material can be attributed to a reputable person. Open blogs are rarely acceptable as sources because anybody (including you or I) could have wrote them. Doing proper citations is tricky. That page has a special system called a ref list. One way to contribute is to put what you want to say and your source on the talk page and other editors will read it an incorporate it into the article. I use WP:CIT when I need help. - Stillwaterising (talk) 01:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks and I am sorry for that. As I said I am new here and just learning how Wikipedia works. If you can make any other suggestions to help me out it would be greatly appreciated. I apparently need a mentor to show me the ropes here. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 13:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Just contact me on my talk page (by adding a new section) if you need help. - Stillwaterising (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

I am currently suffering from a bad case of the flu, but I will take you up on that after I feel better. Apparently when I cited that reference I had no idea that CNN was a blog, and that Rick Sanchez was a blogger. Thank you for setting me straight. I was under the delusion that it was a Cable News and Web News site and reliable, verifiable, notable, and meets citation requirements by Wikiepdia. But apparently I was clearly wrong on that. I guess I just won't cite any more CNN sources, as you claim they are just a blog site and doesn't fit the requirements of the Wikipedia plan for citations and references. Apparently I was suffering from the flu and thus blundered and made an error. SoC Larry King and Wolf Blitzer are not to be trusted and when CNN has that "Trusted source of News" they lied. I suspected that because it was Darth Vader who spoke those words on my TV screen all these years. I'll bet Fox News isn't even fair and balanced either. The first reference I cited in that Stack article was CNN and Rick Sanchez, and apparently I was wrong to do so. Thank you very much I am learning not to trust the news and media companies now, apparently they must all be part of some secret conspiracy against the public or something. Yes I will talk to someone as smart and wise as you who figured all that out. If I am erroneous yet again and am wrong on that, please let me know when I feel better. I decided to quit editing articles until I get my serious illness under control and go back to normal. Since apparently I know this guy from Kuro5hin and other areas on the Internet and didn't know it, I will pass the interview rights to you who doesn't know him. That way you won't be biased and I don't break any rules. I think this Crawford guy knows what made Stack tick and what motives and other stuff about him. If you and Crawford get together you can write a book on Stack and software consultants and the IRS and make some serious money or just do an open source book for non-profit. As for me I am on disability and cannot earn money, but I contribute to open source projects. I paid an accountant to settle with the IRS long ago and am in good standing with them, and I am currently struggling with my own taxes but should finish before April 15th. I never cheat on taxes. If you'd like you can email me via my info here and we can talk more about it in private. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 20:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you said you're interested in mentorship do I found at program for you called adoption. Just put this text at the top of your user page. {{subst:dated adoptme}} - Stillwaterising (talk) 05:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

and yes CNN and sanchez can be used as a source but an open blog not written by sanchez but by random bloggers can't be verified. Polcies are WP:RS and WP:V - Stillwaterising (talk) 06:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again, sorry for the humor. The flu is activating my mental illness up a bit Schizoaffective disorder which is why I stopped editing articles to avoid bias or any other problems. I hope you understand me better and I didn't mean to joke but my illness took control. I should be better by Friday or at least a week. You have a lot of good information and are very knowledgeable and helpful so many thanks again. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 17:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting. I know a doctor who thinks that illness and injuries decrease the immune system and a persons total viral load increases which can aggravate mental disorders. Found some research on this here. - Stillwaterising (talk) 17:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Glad to know you thanks again. That is a very interesting link. I think we can be friends here. When I get better we can talk some more. It really seems to explain what is happening to me. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 23:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh by the way I tracked down the software engineer that was in those CNN and ABC videos. As it turns out not only is he a software consultant like Stack, but he is non-violent and talks against what Stack did, but it appears Michael David Crawford suffers from the same illness as I do schizoaffective disorder. I am or was also a software consultant which got me interested in the Stack case but I got too sick to work and shafted by the IRS and my employers until I got too sick to work. But like Crawford I am non-violent and use words to protest. I don't know if he is notable enough for an article, so I started up one in my user page sandbox. Michael David Crawford until I can determine if he fits Wikipedia notability standards. I am not sure, and I need to do more research on him. He gave me a few of his web sites via email and he apparently posts on Kuro5hin using his real name and the trolls there pick on him for his mental illness, etc. If I have violated anything please let me know and I can have the article in my user space deleted. I don't want to break any rules here as I am new. I found out I had talked to him before on other web sites but wasn't sure it was the same person until he verified it via email and he is easy to find and contact. I found another schizoaffective person he knows named Trane as a handle and I might even find more as well. Let us see if we can take this tragedy and turn it into something good and positive and build stuff instead of people like Stack destroying stuff. Apparently Michael is in California and I am in Missouri. If you want his email address to interview him for the Stack article and get more info I can arrange that. This I consider as research and if I am doing it wrong, please let me know. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 23:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

It's fine what you have and it's encouraged to do that first rather than creating a stub. I added two tags. Noinclude takes it out of search engines, if you want that. I cut my teeth by bringing Heather Harmon out of deletion. There's a link to the Afd discussion on the talk page, it's lengthy. - Stillwaterising (talk) 01:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Great then I wasn't breaking any rules and was following them. Thank you again for the assist there. This is a great experience for me as most persecute me for my mental illness, but now I appear to be helped and wanted. This is rare for me, most Internet web sites have people who don't want me because I am mentally ill. After I file my taxes this year and get something back, I'll have to donate to Wikipedia at least $5 or something. I'll start out small and work on this Crawford article to cut my teeth on Wiki editing. Then I'll clean up other articles and check spelling, grammar, and broken links and remove red links, etc. Then watch articles for vandalism and blanking and revert them. But after I am better and recovered from the flu. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 04:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I am creating more articles, but not sure how they work. My mental illness gave me "thought bursting" in which thoughts of ideas and concepts come to me via someplace else and I have to unscramble them and decrypt them to make sense. I emulate many minds and my subconscious somehow knows what to do with this stuff. Cyberspace and God's Help Desk is one such idea to replace what we use on the Internet with a cyberspace system. Advanced physics and the Higgs Boson and Ghostbusting theories is yet another idea. I have no idea what to do with these. But at least they are in my sand box and I can practice editing them and if worthless or don't fit in Wikipedia have them deleted later. I will add in those tags you told me about to meet the rules and guidelines here. Many thanks again. Apparently my mental illness puts me on God's version of his Internet whatever that is or happens to become? ;) Neo Neuromancer (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The guidelines for userspace are at WP:USER. These two articles would be considered WP:OR. If it is seen that you are using your user space for free web hosting then people may be concerned, but if your intent is article building then you should be ok, or at least have a leg to stand on if challenged. It would be good to put in some sources. - Stillwaterising (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I am using them to learn to edit Wiki sources and figure out how the reference template and other stuff works. If it is WP:OR I'll be glad to have them deleted. I don't want to host any web sites here nor break any rules. Thank you again for telling me. My intent is article building and learning how to write better articles in my sandbox so it does not annoy, upset, or bother anyone here or anywhere else. I even used the tags you gave me to keep them out of search engines so there is no way it can become a web site and be search-able by Google or anything else. With that in mind if I don't want them anymore, how do I go about having them deleted later? If it is WP:OR and does not fit into Wikipedia are there any other Wikis it might fit into and then I can join that Wiki and move it there later? Someone might benefit from this stuff if it makes any sense and has any practical use in the real world. Some university Wiki I assume if colleges have those yet? Neo Neuromancer (talk) 17:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

By the way does Wikipedia keep an article on the different type of Wiki systems out there? Is not would it be a good idea to start such an article? I mean I am still new at this, but I thought you might know. I am taking baby steps and learning from my mistakes and hope not to repeat any. I don't know as much as you obviously and one day I hope to be at least as half as good at what you do for Wiki editing so I can get something done. But these articles I am trying to write, I mean in good faith I am doing this to avoid breaking any rules or upsetting anyone or anything wrong. If I put them in the wrong place, I'll try to find the right Wiki they go on and then have them deleted here as they obviously don't fit in here per WP:OR which I didn't understand or know about until today. I added in a signed comment by me at the top of each article to explain what is going on and not to cite or take seriously anything I wrote and that it is a test so there should be no confusion over it and then I signed that comment to show I put it there. Is that good enough for now? I am still sick with the flu and now on a double antibiotic, turns out it is a really bad case of the flu messing up my mental illness and causing stomach problems via a gerd gastro reflux problem and that seemed to have made it worse. Thank you for tolerating my nonsense and word salad sandbox articles that may or may not be WP:OR until I can learn more about them via proper research at a university Wiki so someone can peer review it and help me find references and citations to support it via prior work. Bare with me I need time off to rest and recover and then maybe next week I can fix things better. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikia has several special interest wikis with different rules than Wikimedia. One is http://paranormal.wikia.com/ - Stillwaterising (talk) 15:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Sound great, I'll join it as soon as I get rid of this Influenza virus. My temp was 103 and is now down to 100, but my wife got it too now. My son seems unaffected which seems like good news. I will visit that Wiki when I feel better, many thanks again. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 19:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey Stillwaterising, are you in any way connected with uncyclopedia? If so I am a big fan of that humor Wiki and anyone associated with it. Uncyclopedia's UnNews, UnBooks, and other funny stuff really makes me feel good. I used to be an active user there under a different name. But I am currently using this name as a different pen name, as I am trying to be a serious Wikipedia contributor. I cut my teeth on Uncyclopedia but I still got a lot of learning to do. Give me a list of the Wikipedia articles you watch here and I'll add them to my watch list and I can revert page blankings and vandalizations of them for when the trolls do stuff like that. I helped handle that Anonymous Slashy incident so I have some experience at handling trolls. It is a small world after all, eh? Neo Neuromancer (talk) 22:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, but I did not notice your reply. You can put {{talkback|Neuromancer}} on my talk page to get my attention. No, I've never looked at unencylopedia. I'll keep it in mind when I think of something that's funny but appropriate here. The most efficient way to fight vandalism is with wp:Huggle. However, you must have 500 edits and experience fighting vandalism before you can apply for access. What they recommend is enabling WP:twinkle then going through Special:RecentChanges to look for vandalism. With a dozen or so Huggle users watching Wp at any given time most changes are quickly reverted. Take a look at wp:warn for warning instructions. Good luck! - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

References

I note from your edit summaries that you've been having a bit of trouble referencing. For websites, use the {{cite web}} template. It looks a bit complicated but in it's simplest form the reference would look a bit like this - <ref name=Name>{{cite web|url=http://wwww.website.com |title=Title |publisher=Publisher |accessdated=today's date}}</ref> Other templates are available such as {{cite journal}}, {{cite book}}, {{cite newspaper}} etc. Mjroots (talk) 07:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, I will study that help section when I have more free time. I just came down with a case of the flu. I hope that I can become a better editor later based on your great advice and help. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 13:57, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

April 2010

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Dl2000 (talk) 23:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Many editor have a throw the baby out with the bathwater approach to undoing. Don't be discouraged, just try to revise so personal views are left out and try readding it. Plot summaries do not require sources. - Stillwaterising (talk) 23:34, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry all I did was add in the plot. I did not mean to add in my views as those are not my views but the plot from the movie. I'll try to remove anything that looks like a personal view in the future, ok? I need a better system of detecting a non-neutral point of view and the link to the NPOV article you gave me to read is very confusing and does not make any sense logically or otherwise, it appears to be written from several points of personal views and is full of logical fallacy errors. I'll figure out what it says later but right now it is too hard to read and comprehend. But I will help remove personal points of views from other articles as I think they are loaded with them. It would be good practice for me to learn how to remove all non-neutral point of view from articles so I can become a better editor. I apologize if what I wrote seemed like a POV, and I will try not to do that again. Thanks again to StillwaterRising and D12000 for their wisdom and good advice. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Tagging

Once you're finished with a userpage, you can tag it for deletion by adding {{db-u1}}. DS (talk) 13:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

My failing health and family health

Anyway we had a death in the family recently and my father is in the hospital and really sick, and I am soon to go into a hospital myself yet again. Sorry I cannot spend more time here to help everyone out, as well as learn to be a better article writer. I hope I could have at least fixed a few articles and made them more accurate and proper citations and stuff. But my time is limited in this life and I might die soon myself unless I find a way to get healthier. I am better off dead anyway even if I am not suicidal. This is a crazy world that makes no sense to me anymore. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 11:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I am not doing much better. My father had the brain tumor removed and is recovering. But it is like Ted Kennedy's brain tumor it will come back to take his life some day. We don't know how long. Sorry I cannot write more articles or do more here. But I myself am in a lot of pain and suffering. I have to spend more time with my father before he passes away even if it is years before that happens. Which means less Internet time. I am sorry if I did anything wrong, it was not my intention to so anything wrong and if and when I do come back, I will try to do the best I can on areas I know or can research more on. Neo Neuromancer (talk) 10:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)