User talk:Nikkicraft

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Citing sources[edit]

Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Could you cite specifics on the centerspread discussed in the article please? Thank you. Dandelion1 05:02, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Case sensitive[edit]

Please check red links on article for case sensitive wiki links. Dandelion1 05:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not sure how to reply to this, so I will do so this way and later delete it after I have posted the update. I will be scanning those photos from CwS as soon as I have time. thanks. Nikkicraft 13:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
hi again. I could not understand which links you were speaking of. None of the links are red. Should I make some correction? Nikkicraft 17:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)


Please put criticisms in Criticism of organized naturism and nudism and avoid adding external links in the middle of articles. There is an external link section at the bottom of most articles.


Hello, Nikkicraft, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  —-- That Guy, From That Show! (talk) 2006-02-23 11:20Z

oh i have just seen this and had already changed it back. There is no article and the links need to be included under criticism of nudism and I don't want to write out a whole article, but will if necessary and the links are removed again. thanks.

I now see what you mean about not adding extrenal links in the upper part of the article. Sorry about that. I have added it the extrenal link at the end of the page. thanks. Nikkicraft 16:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome, and an attempt to assist[edit]

Hi Nikki,

Welcome to Wikipedia.

Now that you've joined up, you can introduce yourself to the community at the new user log. You can also sign your name to discussion pages using three tildes, like this: ~~~. If you use four, you can add a datestamp too.

You should read our policies as soon as you can -- especially Neutral Point of View -- having seen your edit summary that said "there is an attempt to censor criticism of the aclu in the revert that was done previous to this edit. i hope I am going this correctly. If I am not can someone please assist me? Thank you." This is my attempt to asnwer your request for assistance.

You might find these links helpful in creating new pages or helping with the tasks below: How to edit a page, How to write a great article, Naming conventions, Manual of Style.

If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian!

Again, welcome!
BCorr|Брайен 13:00, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

thank you very much for your comments. I now know how to sign my name and date stamp it! : ) I did not put up this page, and didn't even particularly want a page on wikipedia. However, I am attempting to add some facts about my life and involvements and accomplishements as a result of a request from the person who did set it up and will continue to do so. Nikkicraft 13:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Moved here from user page[edit]

I suspect a careful reading of your posts to the American Civil Liberties Union article would put you on the wrong side of Wikipedia's Three-Revert Rule. Please don't put yourself in jeopardy by pushing this. It's bad enough that your edits could very easily be construed as spam and in this, the consensus of editors seems to clearly be running against you. Atlant 18:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm fine with the page as it is now. I am not on Wikipedia often and I apologize if anything I did was interpretted as spam. I will be consulting others on wikipedia about how changes should be made. thanks. Nikkicraft 18:15, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
'Sorry about putting that on your user page; I mis-moused!
Atlant 18:49, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Stuff you might want to read[edit]

thank you. yes i'm reading everything I can and appreciate these links as well.Nikkicraft 18:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
You are welcome. We also have a rule that says "Don't bite the newbie." So if you get into trouble, say "Gimme a break, I'm new here!" When you get the basics, you can just use the Wikipedia:Policy trifecta which includes the useful rule of "Ignore all rules" (meaning you can do most anything ONCE; if people complain, just don't do it again.) A lot of people prefer that method to reading a lot of rules and guidelines. It gets fun quick, I promice. WAS 4.250 18:48, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I can't wait for it to get more fun than it has been all last night : ) Nikkicraft 18:52, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I created a subpage for you[edit]

I created the subpage User:Nikkicraft/1 for you. It is in your user space, so you can do most anything you want with it. I seeded it with the contents of Nikki Craft, in case the article gets deleted and you want a copy for some reason. WAS 4.250 19:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome![edit]

Thanks for your note, Nikki. You've waded into the sea of Wikipedia, and you're doing a great job keeping your head above water. Unfortunately, there is a small number of people who decide to "take someone on" and there are one or two that seem to despise what you stand for and are trying to delete the article on you. Just read the policies, ask for advice, assume good faith as much as possible, avoid personal and ad hominem [sic] attacks, and practice wikilove and you'll be ok. Being fair and reasonable go a long way around here, and those that aren't quickly run afoul of the community, as User:WAS... is doing.

Peace, BCorr|Брайен 13:48, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Hello from AWM[edit]

I am Wikipeida outcast, but I was asked to help on your article. I am sure that it is now safe from the VfD. The scholarship requirement here at W are increasing. I know you have lots of documention on your life. I took the approach of "just the facts" to avoid accusations of the article being "promotional". They have a lot of rules and pitfalls for controversial people like you. Our mutual friend will be in contact with you. If you have volume numbers of Clothed with the Sun that document you early activism efforts, let me know. AWM -- 01:16, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Also: I added you to Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles. We need more women on that list. -- 02:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Can you please contact me at the email address off my website so I can send you a few items of documentation to include on the page (that others have requested off the deletion page) since you know best how to add them onto the site in an appropriate manner? Whoever you may be thank you for all the work you did on the site in the last hours. thank u. Nikkicraft 04:53, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
One note about the delete process: they have a few concepts about this delete process. As long as one delete vote has been cast (no matter how carelessly), the delete thing has to go thorugh the whole 7 day process. AWM -- OlympiaDiego 00:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


Please only make additions to articles about you by adding facts and fixing wrong information. It's just a reminder --FlareNUKE 02:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Based on Wikipedia:Autobiography, I'd say don't even add information unless it's already been published by a reliable source that can be cited. Joey Q. McCartney 00:22, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

"Hall of shame" articles[edit]

I've now come across – and deleted – three identical articles with slightly different titles, all simply advertising your Web page. Please stop using Wikipedia as an advertising board. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I entered it that way because people say it three different ways. The official name of it is the "nudist naturist hall of shame". Some call it the "nudist hall of shame", and some the "naturist hall of shame". Perhaps I don't understand the proceedure for adding pages and I would like some advise. However why did you remove the page with the exact name of the website? I don't understand that. I thought wikipedia wanted connections made like that. If I was mistaken then I apologize.Nikkicraft 17:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

The article(s) were advertising your Website; you must know by now (as I see from this page that I'm not the first to try to explain things to you) that we don't allow Wikipedia to be used to advertise in that way. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:00, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

okay i see what you mean and I will not add any more pages like that.Nikkicraft 17:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Use REDIRECT's to do this... --FlareNUKE 00:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thank you. I will look that up and see if I can see an appropriate way to do it. If not then I just won't do it. --Nikkicraft 01:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Redirects are fine in general, but if you create just one article of the type that was deleted before, it will be deleted again, as it was simply an advertisement for your Web site. I thought that you'd acknowledged that. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 09:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

FlareNUKE posted something about redirects. I have no idea how redirects might apply in this particular situation, or on wikipedia in general; or what the rules are regarding them. I told him in my earlier post I would educate myself and if after reading up about what he suggested that I reaized his suggestion was not appropriate that I would not take his advise. Do you see any contradiction in either of my statements? --Nikkicraft 10:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

A redirect means that, instead of creating the same article with three different names, you create one article, making the other names redirect to it. The syntax is:

#REDIRECT [[Main article]]

--Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

A good view into[edit]


This is a handy tool/page that will help you to monitor changes in Pedophilia-related articles:

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pedophilia Article Watch/Watchlist

I am sure that you will notice your aticle is on this list. It is because the article about you is in the Pedophilia category. Note: sometimes there are two categories for this kind of thing: one is a list persons convicted of pedophilia-related crimes and the other is the study of pedophilia (probably both as a social phenomena and as a crime). You have to look at the descriptions of the categories careful. Far too often, a clear description of the scope of a category is not provided in prose form and you will have to examine it carefully to see if there is a descernable scope that can be derived from what articles are in a particular category.

All this category stuff is in constant flux. In particular, I just made Category:Pederasty a sub-cat of Category:Pedophilia . The relationship and the implications of each word make the relationship complex. This category stuff is not a strict hierarchy, so I recommend that you study it for a while to see the patterns. Just like with a long "see also" list, one has to find a balance between such lists of "related subjects" being either too long or two short.

AWM -- 20:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Great to know. thanks. --Nikkicraft 01:44, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

transferring my old data to Nikki Craft user name[edit]

I just opened the account Nikki Craft and I want to change from my old user name from Nikkicraft and will try to figure out how to link my old data with the new user name. --Nikkicraft 23:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username for all the details on how to go about this. Thryduulf 21:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

markup tip[edit]

I noticed that you added italics using html markup:

<i>italic text</i>

while this does work, the standard wiki markup is:

''italic text''

simiarly wiki uses different markup for bold and bold italic text:

'''bold text'''
'''''bold italic text'''''

More on this can be found at Help:Editing. Thryduulf 21:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks! --Nikkicraft 22:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Get involved in social nudity naming convention debates![edit]

Hi, I'd like to invite you to get involved in establishing consensus in discussions concerning naming conventions for social nudity topics.

Please join in this community discussion regarding the name of Portal:Clothes free.

Participate here: Portal_talk:Clothes_free#Votes

Please also join in the discussion about what to name an article dealing with social nudity. I believe the the latter term is a better term to use than naturism or nudism as it is more WP:NPOV and is in use currently. Formerly the article was titled Clothes free movement.

Participate here: Talk:Naturism#Move_to_Social_nudity


User:Dandelion (talk|contribs) 19:50, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Craftdiablo1981.jpg[edit]

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Inline references[edit]

Hey Nikki, this is AWM. I went ahead and inlines the references on some of the articles that we share a common interest in. That means that I put the tags <ref> </ref> around the references and I put an arbitrary lable on the links. It consolidates them nicely in the bottom section. It is considered the preferred way. Check it out. -- 04:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

hi again . . . let's try this introduction & getting to know each other stuff again[edit]

I think there seems to have been some sort of terrible misunderstanding here both about my questions and comments and about how to use various parts of wikipedia.

Let me again try to introduce myself. Hello my name is Cynthia I'm a nice older LGBT woman, kind to pets and children, etc. with (I'd like to think) good feminist credential stretching back many, many years.

NOTE: Now, having had this problem on Wikipedia before, let me just say this flat out. If the problem is that you do not approve of and/or have trouble with the concept of LGBT (aka "queer", aka bisexual) people and you feel that your particular belief systems would make it impossible for us to have a cordial discussion because our value systems are just so different, please just says so. I'm not partially attached to this article, I came across it because of some link to some area I was actually working on. Additionally, at this time I'm too busy to have a debate on the merits of LGBT Rights. I in no way meant these statements to be rude or to belittle any belief system you may have. Additionally if you want to discuss LGBT Rights with me please e-mail me and I'd be pleased to discuss them with you at another time.

Anyway, if you'll kindly take a look, you'll see that my "about me" page is here and we can talk back and forth "off-line" so to speak by means of our respective "mytalk" pages. Again, I am NOT a scholar just a humble computer programmer . By my using the "mytalk" pages, this means I get to ask the dumb questions about topics and people can answer me and point out appropriate scholarly articles so I can lean more WITHOUT impacting an actual article.

For instance, if I was to say to you I heard there were some rare breed of dolphins that appeared to be pink, that would not be slander against dolphins that were blue. Questions & comments posed in the "mytalk" area are not accusations, they are just questions and comments and the "mytalk" area is a place we can discuss things informally.

The things that go on "mytalk" pages are NOT questions that I would put on any article "discussion" page. SO may I most politely and respectfully suggest that you take my "hello there" comments and my "I don't know much, this is what I've heard but I'm willing to learn comments" off the actual article discussion page. They are not, as far as I know the kind of thing that belongs there.

Please just chat back at me |over here on my page and we can get to know each other and discuss things. OK? Sound good? CyntWorkStuff 04:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you considered the fact that I don't care if you have a cat, that I don't wish to entertain your "stupid questions" on talkpages or care uno iota about your sexual preference or that I am uninterested in "getting to know each other" in "private"? Have you considered that I find it bizarre that you would write "Please just chat back at me lover" to someone who hasn't had a single exchange with you and that you would--because I am treating another user Peter G Werner with some courtesy because even though he does have an obvious agenda opposite of mine, that he more or less appears (from what little I know now) to be able to avoid making public false accusations about other people--that speculate in a public statement that I am "afraid" of him. You say that replying to talkpage ramblings is not appropriate on discussion pages yet that is precisely how you and Peter G Werner / iamcuriousblue began the discussion with material that he moved from his talk page to reply to you. See: "umm why second-wave feminism removed as not relevant on Melissa Farley"? It seems it is you who is mixing up quite a lot, including the fact that I'm not here to do anything but mop up what I can of your sloppy wikipedia practices and your gossip and misrepresentations about feminist scholar Melissa Farley. P.S. I'm posting using my real name and while you are "desperately" asking for personal information about Farley, and even her "family", that you are such a coward that you don't even post on Wikipedia using your actual name or even show your face on your own talkpage.--Nikkicraft 18:25, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
RE: "lover," that was clearly a typo (i.e. [[User talk:CyntWorkStuff||over here on my page]]). In summary, pics of my cat are over here. El_C 19:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
No it was not clearly a typo. I'm just learning today how to make a User link for the first time and also the link went to her page and not to the page of her cats, and I had no idea what she meant. --Nikkicraft 20:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I meant it's clear from the example of the code, I gathered that's what happned. It sure made me laugh when I saw it! El_C 00:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
true!! it was really funny once i realized it, too, but cumulatively I hope it's sufficiently documented why I was not willing to meet her for a private hot chat on her Wiki talk page. ; D --Nikkicraft 01:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about earlier[edit]

Ms. Craft,

with regards to the edit of Pornography that I reverted, your edit omitted a large group of pornography advocacy links that had previously been present in the article. I gather from your subsequent comments on the discussion page that these omissions were unintentional and a result of inexperience with the editing process. That's fine; we all make mistakes - I certainly do. I've placed some suggested layouts on the talk page if I understand what you want to do correctly.

Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. Hope it's not too bruising; Wikipedia is an increasingly complex beast with its own robust culture of debate, which takes a bit of getting used to. --Robert Merkel 05:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If that was the case then I sincerely apologize. I really had no idea that i deleted links. I'll go back and look at the history of it and if it was me who did that then it's me who owes you the apology. Thanks for whatever assistance you can give me with those danged subheaders. I've messed up two time trying to do them and I'll check on the page for how to do it. --Nikkicraft 06:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Your comment on ANI[edit]

In regard to your comment on the admin board, you may want to bring up what you are doing at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spam which is devoted to among other things, making sure Wikipedia is not hijacked for promotional use. JoshuaZ 19:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

will do. thanks.--Nikkicraft 19:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Please use edit summaries[edit]

When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labeled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

Edit summary text box

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:06, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

okee doke. will do much better in that regard. thanks for the reminder. --Nikkicraft 11:10, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi. I read this in a string of mail messages and thought of you. For example in that mail it says "I find myself trying hard to write for positions that I think are objectively wrong". You might be thinking, well of couse, that's what NPOV is all about. We present what all the trustworthy and noteable sources say with special emphasis on how possibly biased points of view represented by primary sources are presented by hopefully less biased generalized (not out to sell a specific point) secondary sources like newspapers. In doing this we often "write for the enemy" especially when they don't write well for themselves. Nazis write poorly for themselves and some of our best "well here is the Nazi point of view" data has been written by very pro Jew people, for example. As you help us document verifiable encyclopedic things, you will run across many people who write many things. Some will delete things they agree with and write things they disagree with because in their judgement it helps to make Wikipedia as a whole a better more NPOV encyclopedia. It is amusing to see POV pushers accuse known Israel sympathizers with being part of a "pro-muslim cabal". I wish you the best in helping Wikipedia be NPOV. WAS 4.250 22:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Ron Raffaelli[edit]

I notice some of your (non-Wikipedia) activism pages mention Raffaelli. If you have any information on this photographer, I'm inviting you to contribute. Critical stuff is welcome (presuming NPOV and referenced, not that I've found really strong references myself). I haven't exhausted Google yet, but many of the review/criticism sources I'm finding are highly pro-porn. Also, I took a quote from one of your sites, but don't have a source for that either.

I understand that you're busy and may not have time for this one. – edgarde 18:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:Pmvase.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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GA reassessment of Andrea Dworkin[edit]

I have reassessed this article and found issues with the referencing which need to be addressed if the article is to retain GA status. The reassessment comments are at Talk:Andrea Dworkin/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:29, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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