User talk:Nsha8591

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I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Georgy Kiesewalter, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, visit the Teahouse, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Drmies (talk) 16:17, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drmies, and thanks for your comments that, unfortunately, do not clarify the initial situation with the article in question. The latest contribution attempt was made only due to someone's (was it you?) request to add inline citations to the article: "its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations". I've read all the available info on wiki referring to 'inline citations' and tried to add a couple. Now you are saying they are partial and I have a 'conflict of interests'! I assumed you need citations proving the subject's bio and/or activity. Those two citations were from two articles published in different sources at very distant times by different people, the sources being provided in full, yet they are unsatisfactory and 'not neutral' (!). Please let me know then what 'citations' you need there. Thank you. Nsha8591 (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drmies, and thanks for your comments that, unfortunately, do not clarify the initial situation with the article in question. The latest contribution attempt was made only due to someone's (was it you?) request to add inline citations to the article: "its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations". I've read all the available info on wiki referring to 'inline citations' and tried to add a couple. Now you are saying they are partial and I have a 'conflict of interests'! I assumed you need citations proving the subject's bio and/or activity. Those two citations were from two articles published in different sources at very distant times by different people, the sources being provided in full, yet they are unsatisfactory and 'not neutral' (!).

Hello Nsha8591. You used the {{Help me}} template, but you wanted an answer from a specific editor. If you still need help, please add your question to that editor's talk page instead. Alternatively, you can ask your question at the Teahouse, the help desk, or join Wikipedia's Live Help IRC channel to get real-time assistance.

Please let me know then what kind of 'citations' you need there. Thank you.

P.S. By the way, I believe the initial article was written by someone else, yet if you are convinced there's too much redundant info like exhibitions (?), let's get rid of them. Thanks. Nsha8591 (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer the COI question first. If you want me to read it, please ping me; see the third paragraph in Help:Notifications. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 19:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: No, I don't have any employer or client here, or expect to receive compensation for my contributions. All I want to do is to inform and reference properly, not to promote or sell anything. Nsha8591 (talk) 20:26, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well that's a start. Mind you, employer/client/compensation aren't the only things that can cause a conflict of interest. If I had a research assistant and asked them to write an article about me, or if I was working for the PR office of my university not specifically tasked with making the place look good on Wikipedia, my research assistant and I would still have a conflict of interest. Anyway, that section called "References"? That's nothing right now, nothing useful: if you added that and/or have access to them, you can use those to verify specific claims in the article--if they are indeed proper secondary sources, independent and reliable. Please see WP:CITE. Drmies (talk) 22:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @Drmies: OK, now I can see what section requires a citation. The only text with the subject's bio in English that I have is as follows: "George Kiesewalter was born in Moscow in 1955 and graduated from the Moscow State V. I. Lenin Pedagogical Institute in 1977. He was one of the co-founders of Collective Actions group (1976-1989) and exhibited his works at APTART gallery in Moscow (1982-1984). From 1981 to 1985 he also took part in the preparation of files for the Moscow Archive of New Art. He has been a member of the Avant-Garde Club since 1987.

From 1998 to 2006 he lived in Toronto, Canada.

Kiesewalter is a painter, graphic artist, performer, and creator of installations and objects. He has published essays on contemporary art and the history of photography. Kiesewalter is the editor of Those Strange Seventies or Loss of Innocence (Moscow: NLO, 2010) and Tipping the Eighties in the Unofficial Art of the USSR (Moscow: NLO, 2014)".

This quote is from the Album Insider published by Garage Museum of Contemporary Art, Moscow, 2016. ISBN 9785990561236, where it is printed on the back inside cover - the album is listed in the References. If you find this citation suitable and reliable (I would send you a photo, but I can't attach it here), let's take it. Although, to my mind, it just repeats the info in the bio section. Thanks. Nsha8591 (talk) 17:05, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]