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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Giovanni Montani. Thanks! Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 06:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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(please sign it with ~~~~ ) PenroseStairwell (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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You said that you have no connection to the subject, which begs the question of why you chose to write a biography of someone apparently chosen at random. You also seem to know about his personal views Giovanni Montani is a strong supporter of the idea... If you have a conflict of interest, you must declare it, please don't write about yourself, your friends or relatives and read the guidance below.

When you write about a person, you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that they meet the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls.

Your sources are mainly his own publications, interviews with him, and organisations he is associated with, like Lo Spazio nel Tempo and PLus. We need independent third-party sources. His own publications can't be used as refs, but they can be listed as his publications with no further reference.
I'm not totally convinced that he meets the notability criteria I linked above, but that's not the reason I deleted

You must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews.

Giovanni Montani is a strong supporter of the idea... is the only concrete way to improve the quality of life and social justice along the next centuries, having care to preserve Earth's micro- and macro-systems. Why is this relevant, other than to promote his views? Also claims like thirty years research experience and a broad spectrum of interests... devoted to develop cross-fertilization activities... stand for their duration of over ten academic years. are unsourced or sourced to affiliated sites, and Particularly remarkable are his studies... is just blatant promo

There shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.

You have multiple in-text external links, not permitted

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I didn't check

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. If you are writing about yourself, or someone you know as a friend, colleague, client, employer or relative, you have a conflict of interest, and you must disclose the nature of that COI. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:40, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the accurate response.

I can confirm that I am not related to the subject. Based on his books and scientific production, I thought that a page could be appropriate.

I now see that I have used some sources inaccurately, including details from non-independent ones. Thank you also for clarifying the nature of independent sources. I will certainly take your suggestions as an indication to do better in my future contributions to the platform. PenroseStairwell (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Giovanni Montani (September 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Paul Vaurie was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Giovanni Montani and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PenroseStairwell! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]