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April 2019

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Georg von Küchler, you may be blocked from editing. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 15:30, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime Phone: This is not original research. The transfer of von Küchler is well documented.

Joseph Howard Tyson in The Surreal Reich (p. 438) : "Himmler's Einsatzgruppen got a mixed reception from the army. Pliant generals such as List, Stulpnagel, Reichenau, and Mannstein permitted them to kill civilians at will. Generals Mackensen and Ulex ordered SS firing squads out of their areas. Hitler transferred General Georg von Küchler for insisting that SS units be expelled and court-martialed. Colonel Hellmuth Stieff observed that: ″one moves about not as a victor, but a guilty party.″. In September, 1939 General Johannes Blaskowitz, the son of a Lutheran paster, complained to Field Marshall Walther von Brauchitsch that the SS had murdered thousands of Jewish and Polish civilians for no tactical reason. [...]".

The webpage cited you removed is the page written by an historian from an official website of German government.

Another source from Jens Westemeier in Himmlers Krieger: Joachim Peiper und die Waffen-SS in Krieg und Nachkriegszeit (p. 141) about Küchler after he learnt about the massacre in the synagogue of Różan by the SS-Artillerie-Standarte and the lack of punishment on them : "Der zuständige Gerichtsheer, der Oberbefehlshaber der 3. Armee, General d. Art. Georg v. Küchler, hob die Urteile wegen "unverständlicher Milde" auf. Am 4 Oktober 1939 erliess Hitler für derartige Fälle ein Gnadendekret. Küchler hatte die Untat vor den versammelten Kommandeuren der SS-Einheit schon am Tage nach dem Massaker aufs Schärfste verurteilt und die SS-Einheit als "Schandflek der Armee" bezeichnet. Da die Wehrmacht Herr der vollziehenden Gewalt war, konnte sie dem Vernichtungspan Hitlers und Himmlers in den ersten Wochen nach Überfall auf Polen einen Riegel vorschieben.".

He is also among the SS critics according to Thomas J. Laub in After the Fall: German Policy in Occupied France, 1940-1944 (p. 64) : "Himmler had few allies among the upper ranks of the army hierarchy in 1939. SS critics like Generals Blaskowitz, Leeb, Küchler and Ulex outnumbered SS proponents such as General Reichenau. The majority of officer corps mistrusted the SS and viewed the Waffen SS as a dangerous rival. Military opposition to the SS took concrete form in protests stemming from the execution of Jews during the campaign in Poland [...]".

Wolfram Wette in The Wehrmacht : History, Myth, Reality (2009, p. 102) : "Another general, Field Marshal Georg von Küchler, also protested against the killings in Poland and was removed from his command as a result. The other commanders and high ranking officers of the Wehrmacht followed the advice of the OKW simply to steer clear of the "racial measures" being undertake — that is, the murders of civilians — and not get involved."

Also Marlis Steinert in Hitler's war and the Germans : public mood and attitude during the Second World War, p. 57 : "[...] such as the protests and actions of General Johannes Blaskowitz,54 supreme commander in the East, who was subsequently recalled but later reinstated, and Field-Marshal von Küchler who was disciplined after the Polish campaign and relieved of his post as army commander." and p.104.

Do you want more references? Roverea (talk) 08:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime Phone: That would be nice to answer, and not just uttering threats. Roverea (talk) 05:59, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]