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Hello, I'm LizardJr8. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to Windover Archeological Site because they seemed inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:46, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello LizardJr8.
I am not clear why you would remove a link to the mans Facebook page whom actually discovered this site. Please allow my valid changes to stand. if you feel anything I printed is inaccurate please take a moment to verify my changes.
Steve does not have an internal page so I feel the link to his FB page is appropriate in this instance.
Humbly submitted.
R Rsvnine (talk) 00:53, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have been blocked while attempting to bolster and ambiguous paragraph where important information regarding the actual discoverer of this site is curiously omitted. Please discontinue blocking my edit when you are uninformed on the facts which are as follows.
To whom this may concern,
I understand your concerns regarding the accuracy and citation of the content I added about Steve Vanderjagt's discovery of the Windover Archaeological Site. To address these concerns, I would like to present the following verifiable sources that corroborate the information:
Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​.
The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​.
Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​.
Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​.
College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​.
Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him.
These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided.
Best regards,
R
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horse dookie blockage.[edit]
I have been blocked while attempting to bolster and ambiguous paragraph where important information regarding the actual discoverer of this site is curiously omitted. Please discontinue blocking my edit when you are uninformed on the facts which are as follows.
To whom this may concern,
I understand your concerns regarding the accuracy and citation of the content I added about Steve Vanderjagt's discovery of the Windover Archaeological Site. To address these concerns, I would like to present the following verifiable sources that corroborate the information:
Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​.
The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​.
Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​.
Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​.
College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​.
Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him.
These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided.
Best regards,
R Rsvnine (talk) 03:51, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Windover Archeological Site. Wikipedia is not a collection of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links may include, but are not limited to, links to personal websites, links to websites with which you are affiliated and links that attract visitors to a website or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not claim a link to the Man who discovered this site is "inappropriate" he does not have any other "interwebs" presence to link to so his FB page is the most appropriate and accurate. I ask that you take a moment to read any edits and do not blanket admonish them. This link is the most appropriate reference available. you can take a moment and verify any information that I have provided. it will be the most accurate info available.
Humbly
R Rsvnine (talk) 00:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
he does not have any other "interwebs" presence to link to so his FB page is the most appropriate and accurate Rsvnine (talk) 01:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have been blocked while attempting to bolster and ambiguous paragraph where important information regarding the actual discoverer of this site is curiously omitted. Please discontinue blocking my edit when you are uninformed on the facts which are as follows.
To whom this may concern,
I understand your concerns regarding the accuracy and citation of the content I added about Steve Vanderjagt's discovery of the Windover Archaeological Site. To address these concerns, I would like to present the following verifiable sources that corroborate the information:
Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​.
The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​.
Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​.
Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​.
College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​.
Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him.
These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided.
Best regards,
R
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horse dookie blockage.[edit]
I have been blocked while attempting to bolster and ambiguous paragraph where important information regarding the actual discoverer of this site is curiously omitted. Please discontinue blocking my edit when you are uninformed on the facts which are as follows.
To whom this may concern,
I understand your concerns regarding the accuracy and citation of the content I added about Steve Vanderjagt's discovery of the Windover Archaeological Site. To address these concerns, I would like to present the following verifiable sources that corroborate the information:
Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​.
The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​.
Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​.
Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​.
College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​.
Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him.
These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided.
Best regards,
R Rsvnine (talk) 03:51, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:FACEBOOK. Materialscientist (talk) 01:14, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced or original content, as you did with this edit to Windover Archeological Site. Doing so violates Wikipedia's verifiability policy. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 01:24, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

please explain exactly what you find to be "unsourced or original content" the "backhoe operator" is referenced as Steve throughout the article, I changed Zero content, I simply added verifiable content to an otherwise ambiguous paragraph. I humbly ask that you verify info before blanket admonishing an entry.
Humbly
R. Rsvnine (talk) 01:30, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello.
I am not certain why you would make the claim "not here to build an encyclopedia." when I am attempting to clarify an ambiguous paragraph entry. the article references "backhoe operator" and in other parts of the article he is referenced as "Steve" I am simply trying to put the paragraph together. Steve Vanderjagt is the man who discovered the site. Swann, Eckerd, Wentz are all subordinate to the discovery, if not for Steve uncovering the site and having the internal fortitude to verify the site at a financial penelty to put the project on pause for a period of years. The external link to his FB page is the only other interwebs presence that this man has. I have made substantive and verifiable edits and it appears some people have decided to blanket admonish my entries in lieu of actually reading my edits and realize that I am correcting an ambiguous paragraph. Please so not pull a Facebook, claiming to verify an entry with no knowledge of the topic at hand.
Humbly
R Rsvnine (talk) 01:49, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rsvnine (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Decline reason:

One open request at a time, please. — Daniel Case (talk) 07:20, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Rsvnine (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I have been blocked while attempting to bolster and ambiguous paragraph where important information regarding the actual discoverer of this site is curiously omitted. Please discontinue blocking my edit when you are uninformed on the facts which are as follows.

To whom this may concern,

I understand your concerns regarding the accuracy and citation of the content I added about Steve Vanderjagt's discovery of the Windover Archaeological Site. To address these concerns, I would like to present the following verifiable sources that corroborate the information:

Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​.

The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​.

Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​.

Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​.

College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​.

Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him.

These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided.

Best regards, R

Decline reason:

You seem to be here to promote Mr. Vanderjagt, and edit warred to preserve your inappropriate edits. The validity of the information is not the issue. You mention sources but did not provide them. The block seems to be correct. 331dot (talk) 09:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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I'm not sure why you posted your statement mulitple times- once at a time is sufficient. 331dot (talk) 09:03, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Windover Dig

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Rsvnine (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

it appears someone here refuses to allow the edit of a page to give credit to the man who actually discovered the site. it was argued that I did not provide sources. I once again include them below. Florida Historical Society: An article on their website explicitly states that in 1982, Steve Vanderjagt was working to clear an area around a pond in Titusville, Florida, when he discovered very old human skeletons​​. The History Center: They recount the moment in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, while working as a backhoe operator, uncovered a human skull, leading to the discovery of the site​​. Wikipedia - Windover Archaeological Site: This page acknowledges the discovery made in 1982, largely thanks to Steve Vanderjagt's inquisitive nature during the construction for the Windover Farms housing development​​. Ancient-Origins.net: They describe how Steve Vanderjagt, using a backhoe to demuck a pond, made the significant find in 1982​​. College of Sciences News, University of Central Florida: This source mentions that the Windover Archaeological Site was discovered in 1982 when Steve Vanderjagt, a backhoe operator, was working for a development company​​. Additionally, Wikipedia’s page dedicated to the Windover Archeological Site mentions that the site was discovered by a backhoe operator who noticed several skulls in his machine's bucket during the construction of a road in 1982​​. Though not explicitly naming Vanderjagt in this instance, the context aligns perfectly with the other sources that do name him. These sources are reputable and provide clear evidence of Steve Vanderjagt's role in the discovery of the Windover site. The content I added is therefore neither uncited nor original but is supported by multiple credible references. I hope this clarifies any doubts and supports the validity of the information provided. Do the right thing.

Decline reason:

You seem to think providing citations here, after you've been blocked, is sufficient and means your contributions were cited. That's not how causality works. Nor have you even provided the citations now; "an article", "they recount", "they describe", etc. Pretty clear you don't understand WP:RS or WP:CITE. You seem to be attempting to wear us down with WP:WALLOFTEXT responses. If you wish to be unblocked, you need to demonstrate you understand your contributions were uncited, you need to demonstrate you understand WP:RS and WP:CITE, and frankly, you probably need to agree to stop writing about Steve Vanderjagt. And, be concise, no more wall-of-text responses. Yamla (talk) 14:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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You are correct, I do not know all the things you referred to. But I do know who discovered the dig. And if you administrators were not so self-righteous you might offer assistance in order to get the correct info published. But it seems the admins are more interested in admonishing users in lieu of providing the true and accurate info. Is there any avenue for the rest of us clearly to stupid to be part of your club to offer edits?

You are correct, I do not know all the things you referred to. But I do know who discovered the dig. And if you administrators were not so self-righteous you might offer assistance in order to get the correct info published. But it seems the admins are more interested in admonishing users in lieu of providing the true and accurate info. Is there any avenue for the rest of us clearly to stupid to be part of your club to offer edits? Rsvnine (talk) 19:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]