User talk:SageOst2024

Your submission at Articles for creation: Complex Xylaria Hypoxilon (July 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello, SageOst2024! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 19:32, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

should I have just made it a summary and just described it as a complex? SageOst2024 (talk) 19:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Complex Xylaria Hypoxilon

Xylaria hypoxylon already has an article. Could the information from your draft not be added there instead of creating a new article? Un assiolo (talk) 19:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

the complex is a completely different thing that has been debated by many people over the past few years. It's not Xylaria Hypoxilon exactly- it's usually close unnamed species or variations within the species. SageOst2024 (talk) 19:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

i could probably make it a after mention in the main article- I just want it recognized on Wikipedia as it is in the scientific community. SageOst2024 (talk) 19:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Compare Burkholderia cepacia complex. Could Xylaria hypoxylon similarly be transformed into an article on the species complex? Or do you think there should be separate articles for both Xylaria hypoxylon and the Xylaria hypoxylon complex? Alternatively, as it seems the existence of the complex isn't even settled (according to your draft article), maybe a section should just be added at Xylaria hypoxylon saying "Some believe Xylaria hypoxylon is part of a species complex along with" etc. --Un assiolo (talk) 19:57, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

it was resolved earlier this year. So I added that the debate has been resolved. SageOst2024 (talk) 16:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

I have asked the editors at WikiProject Fungi who are more knowledgeable than me about the subject and they believe the information should be added to Xylaria hypoxylon instead of creating a new article. You can participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fungi#Assistance needed. --Un assiolo (talk) 18:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

okay-I shall do that SageOst2024 (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I edited it to Xylaria Hypoxion. SageOst2024 (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Great. I have performed some copyediting at Xylaria hypoxylon. You can check it out and confirm I haven't introduced any errors. I would like to ask whether the last reference ("what the complex is NOT.") is necessary. Wikipedia generally doesn't allow citing user-generated content such as forum posts. Would you mind if I removed that reference?

Also, if you no longer need Draft:Complex Xylaria Hypoxilon, you can have it deleted by placing {{Db-g7}} at the top of the article. Or, if you are using the Visual Editor, by clicking Insert, then Template, then entering Db-g7 (you can leave the Rationale empty). --Un assiolo (talk) 20:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I was proposing removing the whole reference, including the link to the forum post, not just the text saying "what the complex is NOT.". I have now gone ahead and removed it, as it is not acceptable for Wikipedia. See WP:USERGENERATED. As I understand, all the content you added is covered by the remaining references. --Un assiolo (talk) 20:09, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

okay! can you look over my Vielle page? I need help with resubmitting! SageOst2024 (talk) 21:08, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I will take a look. Do you want me to request deletion for Draft:Complex Xylaria Hypoxilon? --Un assiolo (talk) 22:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

yes please! SageOst2024 (talk) 16:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Vielle (Nitro Type) (July 10)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Iwaqarhashmi was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Waqar💬 19:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

The fandom is the only source for Nitro Type because the site says for "Fairness" that they cannot just make official pages. This is why I sited what I did. SageOst2024 (talk) 19:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

there are literally no other sources other than the player them-self and they don't talk to me usually. SageOst2024 (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I did some digging. found official stuff! SageOst2024 (talk) 15:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Vielle (Nitro Type)

I am afraid the subject of the article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline. You may want to read the whole thing, but the main principle is: "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Reliable sources means books, newspapers, etc.

I don't think you will be able to find reliable sources covering this person. The reviewers at Articles for Creation go through many articles every day, so they don't have the time to investigate every topic in detail. If they see that an article doesn't have adequate sources, they decline it. They do not investigate whether adequate sources exist in the first place, which is why the reviewer didn't tell you this. So it's not your fault that you didn't manage to find reliable sources. They just don't exist for this subject.

Wikipedia is a general-purpose encyclopedia and it does not accept articles that are only of interest to very niche groups such as people playing a specific video game. There are other wikis that have different standards from Wikipedia, and indeed Nitro Type has a wiki and the wiki even has a page for Vielle. You can work on improving that article if you want.

But I would encourage you to keep contributing to Wikipedia, in addition to any work on other wikis. The information you added on Xylaria hypoxylon has been accepted; perhaps you have more mycological knowledge you'd like to share with us. You can work on expanding existing articles – on fungi or on anything else you are knowledgeable about. Or you can contribute in other areas. The Task Center has plenty of things that need fixing. Un assiolo (talk) 21:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)