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Sorry man my last edit was by accident im serious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.224.233.206 (talk) 04:05, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page :) Kla'quot 05:35, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert

[1] Check out what you did :) I know it was an accident, but just keep an eye out next time. Giggy ^Talk 01:12, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: indefblocked on userpages

You'll find that those users have been indeed indefblocked, per this CheckUser case. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 01:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I know a cult when I see a cult.

How else can you explain why this site tries to cover up Lord Little-Beach's arse and please forgive me for this unintented pun, dark side. Ok I had my laugh for today. --114.76.212.56 (talk) 06:17, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your Dreanought revert

Why did you remove my addition about Operation Albion in the baltic. In this operation dreadnoughts like SMS Bayern, SMS König were used. On the other side Gallipoli was an operation "designed" for out dated battelships pre-dreadnoughts so this should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.86.11.55 (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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khalsa page is propaganda. and i'm angry...lol....too much importance for something insignificant..:)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.100.38 (talk) 10:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info!

Sorry I missed the second bit below. Should have further checked recent history. I'll check more carefully before attempting to repair vandalism 75.65.169.158 (talk) 07:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Italian death statistics in Coronavirus disease 2019

In Special:Diff/946757659, you made the same fix for the URL that I also made (but I was slower, so I abandoned my edit!). I also noticed that wrong figure for the 80-89 age group in Italy, the same figure that you corrected. But your correction was from 23.7 to 23.6, whereas the number I see in the table on page 5, last column, 4th number from the bottom, in the reference is 23.2!

So where did you get the number 23.6? Perhaps the Italian authorities are updating the PDF at different times without telling us?

Or perhaps you (or the previous poster) were doing some original research by trying to mathematically combine the reference's 80-89 figures with the 90+ figures? Because the table in the article only has an "80+" column?

Let's see if we can find agreement on a basic number. (Or just update it to a later day's number that we can agree upon.)

Also, this same source is used to support the assertion a few paragraphs up, that 99.8% of those dying from the virus also had a pre-existing co-morbidity. My Italian is really rudimentary but I don't see the number 99,8 anywhere in the document. There is a paragraph that seems to be about this, on page 4 at the bottom, but it says "68,9% dei casi". Please help set me straight here.

Thanks for caring! Gnuish (talk) 07:02, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Gnuish: Regarding the 23.6% calculation, this was what I would consider a routine calculation to add the 80-89 statistics with the ≥90 statistics in order to get the 80+ column to maintain consistency. It appears that most countries uses 80+/≥80 as their upper limit for reporting. The % Letalità (Case Fatality Rate) is a calculation of N. Deceduti (Number of Deceased) divided by the N. Casi (Number of Cases) e.g. 1243 N. Deceduti ÷ 5352 N. Casi = 23.2 % Letalità for age group of 80-89. Therefore the calculation needed to determine 80+ is to take the sum of 80-89 and ≥90 N. Deceduti (1243 + 285 = 1528) divided by the sum of 80-89 and ≥90 N. Casi (5352 + 1115 = 6467) to get the resulting 80+/≥80 percentage (1528 ÷ 6467 = 23.6%). Per Wikipedia:No_original_research#Routine_calculations, this would not be considered original research.

Regarding the section question of the 99.8% number, the user who added that information appears to be Gtoffoletto in Special:Diff/946242277 using the older version of the report from 16 marzo 2020. I was focused on updating the Case fatality rates (%) by age and country table to the latest available data and did not realize that the citation was used elsewhere. I actually do not have any knowledge of Italian, but translating the report would indicate that the preexisting condition percentage should be 68.9% and not 99.8%. They later added a different citation in Special:Diff/946308061 with references the other report dated 17 Marzo 2020. The data appears to come from page 3, which would be an incorrect interpretation of that page as it appears to says that it is a sample of 355 out of 2003 (17.7%) deaths specifically for preexisting conditions. I think it would be appropriate to correct that percentage as it appears to be a misunderstanding of the cited report. Spitfire8520 (talk) 05:13, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking. I've re read the two sources and they are actually not very clear.

I confirm 68,3% comorbidity is clearly reported in the the older version of the report from 16 marzo 2020 with N=25.058 of which 1.697 are deaths. While the other report other report dated 17 Marzo 2020 which supposedly has more recent data makes a similar statement but using only a subset of deaths N=355 out of 2003 deaths or 17.7% of the total as you reported. I can confirm those are not ONLY deaths with comorbidity as it clearly states that at least a small percentage had 0. But I'm not sure how that subset is chosen. It is not specified. Maybe the table was based on older data? Definitely should use 68,3% and the more complete source. Unfortunately the number of average comorbidities is in the other report and based on the incomplete data. Confusing... but one report is based on deeper analysis of the deaths and uses only older data that has been more thoroughly analysed. BTW the same inconsistency is present in the newer reports you can always find here: https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/aggiornamenti the reports are called "bollettini" in Italian. national data update 19 march reports 68,9% and deaths analysis 20 march reports 1.2% with 0 comorbidities N=481/3200--Gtoffoletto (talk) 10:05, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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