User talk:Tentemp
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July 2022
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SK High School Edits
[edit]I noticed that you removed a large portion of the paragraphs on the South Kingstown High School article relating to the Controversy surrounding the mascot of the school and the history pertaining to it. In your edit summary, you said that the articles sourced in the section were, "Weak and very poorly sourced", but I couldn't really find any major issues with the source material. Furthermore, they support the statements made in the section pretty well. I guess I'm just looking for some extra clarification on why you thought it was necessary to edit/remove that part of the section, or maybe even if you had some more credible sources that could be cited instead? thanks. Frost.xyz (talk) 18:44, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- The source is poor and don’t explicitly pin to the school. Also it’s not from the CSA. There are also many other ideas as to why it’s named the rebels. One is rebelling against the British crown the other is rebelling against king Phillip. Tentemp (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- I still don't really understand how the article should be considered "poor". It is from a relatively reputable publisher, and although it does not directly pin it to the school or explain what the "Rebels" name is in reference to, the Johnny Reb' mascot and the confederate battle flag on the old yearbook is more than enough to infer which "Rebels" they are referring to. Furthermore, I sincerely doubt that there would be so much pushback from the public about the name if it was simply referring to the Revolutionary war, especially considering the questionable past of the school's symbolism. See: change (DOT) org/p/south-kingstown-school-commitee-changing-the-name-of-south-kingstown-highschool-rebels (Which includes an image of the yearbook back cover I mentioned earlier). Frost.xyz (talk) 15:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
- The reference is poor. We can’t site that kind of paper. It’s a college paper and like you said does not directly reference the school. There are multiple theories as to what the rebels means. Rebel again British crown, king Phillip, the Massachusetts bay colony, the Plymouth colony. North Kingstown is our rival, why aren’t they called the Union then? The Johny rebel mascot and CSA battle flag are not the cause of the name but rather high school kids association with the name rebel. Think dukes of hazard back when it was cool. There is no consensus as to why the name is rebel. And we can’t use a college article. I’m aware of the change from the board but it didn’t pass. Tentemp (talk) 08:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- im not sure if you meant this or not, but you said "North Kingstown is our rival", is this implying that you attend South Kingstown High School? If so, this entire situation may be a conflict of interest. Frost.xyz (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- No situation. Unreliable source. It can’t be used. Time to move on. Have a good day Tentemp (talk) 22:33, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- If you are going to continue just avoiding my question, then I will just assume you do, in fact, attend SKHS. therefore, I will be reversing the edits you have made unless you decide to actually give some sort of evidence on what makes it unreliable. Frost.xyz (talk) 16:06, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- No consensus so you can’t reverse. I did not attend and you can’t cite a dissertation. It’s not acceptable Tentemp (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- See WP:RS 47.200.110.84 (talk) 22:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- That’s correct. Tentemp (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- If you are going to continue just avoiding my question, then I will just assume you do, in fact, attend SKHS. therefore, I will be reversing the edits you have made unless you decide to actually give some sort of evidence on what makes it unreliable. Frost.xyz (talk) 16:06, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- No situation. Unreliable source. It can’t be used. Time to move on. Have a good day Tentemp (talk) 22:33, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- im not sure if you meant this or not, but you said "North Kingstown is our rival", is this implying that you attend South Kingstown High School? If so, this entire situation may be a conflict of interest. Frost.xyz (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- The reference is poor. We can’t site that kind of paper. It’s a college paper and like you said does not directly reference the school. There are multiple theories as to what the rebels means. Rebel again British crown, king Phillip, the Massachusetts bay colony, the Plymouth colony. North Kingstown is our rival, why aren’t they called the Union then? The Johny rebel mascot and CSA battle flag are not the cause of the name but rather high school kids association with the name rebel. Think dukes of hazard back when it was cool. There is no consensus as to why the name is rebel. And we can’t use a college article. I’m aware of the change from the board but it didn’t pass. Tentemp (talk) 08:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
- I still don't really understand how the article should be considered "poor". It is from a relatively reputable publisher, and although it does not directly pin it to the school or explain what the "Rebels" name is in reference to, the Johnny Reb' mascot and the confederate battle flag on the old yearbook is more than enough to infer which "Rebels" they are referring to. Furthermore, I sincerely doubt that there would be so much pushback from the public about the name if it was simply referring to the Revolutionary war, especially considering the questionable past of the school's symbolism. See: change (DOT) org/p/south-kingstown-school-commitee-changing-the-name-of-south-kingstown-highschool-rebels (Which includes an image of the yearbook back cover I mentioned earlier). Frost.xyz (talk) 15:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)