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New Page Review - Newsletter No.4

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remove "Georges Romme" page

Hi Theroadislong: I noted the notability issue inserted on the page on Georges Romme. I'm the subject of this page (and also a contributor to wikipedia). I fully agree with your observation/comment.

I suggest you delete the page entirely. Can you do that, or have it done? (I do not have the authority to do so.)

GeorgesRomme (talk) 13:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

a few questions about the page I'm constructing

Sir,

Thank you for your careful attention to my page about Dave Bradley. I am sorry to cause you so much work--I've never done this and I'm not a good writer. If you don't mind I have few quick questions.

Unreferenced puffery--this is my lack of skill. I failed to get across the significance of this person. He is known everywhere in neuroscience--and diabetes--as having a rare kind of creativity. He hops from one profession to another, each time with exceptional success. After ten years absent, his neuroscience papers are increasingly cited. This is rare; typically the citation rate falls to nothing in ten years.

That, of course, is puffery. I did try to present tangible things, awards and such, but I'm not sure how to reference them. He has the original invitation to meet the Queen at the museum opening. To have an exhibit in the world's largest science museum is significant, which is why I included it. The invitation is all I have to go on.

How should I reference his influences? With their location, or perhaps some of their papers?

Thank you again for your attention.

Dandh8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandh8 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm afraid that, like many others, you have misunderstood what Wikipedia is about. It is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects. Creating an article is one of the most difficult things to do on Wikipedia, creating one when you have a conflict of interest is doubly difficult, creating one without reliable sources is just impossible I'm afraid. You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is indepth, widespread coverage of him in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

response to comments on COI

Thank you for your helpful comments.

I work near, previously for, Bradley, but I'm not really his friend. No hostility, but I'm not updating this page out of affection. Patrick Kennedy recruited Bradley to speak publicly about mental illness, so our boss (Daniel Goldin) said someone should update his stub. Bradley can't do it, so I got volunteered. Luckily I had help from (forgot the name) an editor who trimmed down all the melodramatic stuff. The page, as it is, isn't much longer or more elaborate than the stub, but it has a picture now and some words about his career.

I saw a comment about Bradley being fond of the awards, and how that shouldn't matter. In that spirit, I might just take it out.

Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandh8 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:EFieldsatGBG/sandbox

Hello, Theroadislong. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 18:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

It's NOT my draft article? Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Art Green

I was going to go back in and add citations to my material after completing the additions. Why did you feel you had to remove all the content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rachgarb (talk • contribs) 20:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with him have published about him, in reliable sources. You have a very clear conflict of interest and should not be editing any of the articles connected with your gallery. Theroadislong (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

09:40:29, 19 May 2017 review of submission by Anastasiia09


Hi Theroadislong! Nice to meet you and thanks for reviewing my Wikipedia article so quickly. Can you please advise what exactly do I need to correct in my article, so it will be accepted? What wasn't good enough? Thanks and waiting for your response. - Anastasiia09 (talk) 09:40, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves or their company, on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject.Blogs, your own website and press releases are not suitable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 12:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC). Theroadislong (talk) 12:52, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, @Theroadislong:. I understand it is required to have reliable and independent sources. My question is, how many of them do you require? Can you please look at the references of Draft:Maytech once again, and check the source №1 (Digital Marketplace lists all suppliers that can provide services to the government). Do these 3 sources I listed count as reliable and independent? They are not enough because my article is not very short? - Anastasiia09 (talk) 11:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes those sources are fine, but all the other content needs reliable sources too, that's what wikipedia does, it summarises what the independent reliable sources say about a subject. Better to make the article much shorter with better references. Theroadislong (talk) 11:41, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Good morning @Theroadislong:. I just had a look at the article about Google Drive, to the Features section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Drive#Features. In the article about Maytech there is Features section too, and they look similar, Google also references to Drive Help, Google Developers Blog, Docs editors Help. May I ask is this section of my article okay or do I need to tweak and shorten it? - Anastasiia09 (talk) 09:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Techtonica.org

Hello, I respectfully request that my deleted page be restored so that I may continue working on it.

I wish to add information on two news articles about Techtonica.org. Our second news article is in the works and we will have a date of publication in a few weeks (Jared Jones of Upworthy is one of them.)

I have spent the morning reading on neutral POV and notability and have bookmarked the Wiki Game for tonight when I get home. I can see that I have much to learn and I want you to know that I am up for it.

Warmly, Inanna500k (talk) 17:36, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I did not delete your article and I am not an admin so cannot restore it, User:Dlohcierekim is the user you need to contact. Theroadislong (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Social media

Hi My name is Iris Medallion. You messaged me to tell me Wikipedia is not social media. Why? Did I do something wrong? Please respond as I don't want to offend anyone! Iris Medallion (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2017 (UTC) Iris Medallion (talk) 16:22, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

It was just the content of your user page "What books and films do you like? Do you like mythology? What is your fave food? Do you have anything you'd like to share about your likes and dislikes?" You haven't offended anyone. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 16:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh thanks! I will edit now. Iris Medallion (talk) 14:53, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

notability

Hi,

The "notability" tag suggests news and interviews. Please note that I listed a highly prestigious interview with the Chronicle of Higher Education, and two news articles about Bradleys papers, one from Nature, the other from Science.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandh8 (talk • contribs) 01:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Interviews are not normally considered reliable sources. Notability requires verifiable evidence, Sources of evidence include recognized peer-reviewed publications, credible and authoritative books, reputable media sources, and other reliable sources generally. See WP:WHYN. The references you have provided mostly link to PDF files on his website these are not suitable. Theroadislong (talk) 08:53, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

What?

Hi You told me off on my talk page? Huh? I read some of the other talks and it seems you correct people, which is a good job, but I made sure not to write social media related things. What have I done? I think you need to say more about what people have done wrong in your corrections, because otherwise it gets unclear. Danni Heaven (talk) 19:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC) Danni Heaven (talk) 19:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Ps have a good day. Danni Heaven (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

I haven't told you off... I have informed you that Wikipedia is NOT social media it's not a place to socialize or write things that are not directly related to improving the encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 19:38, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

No offence you haven't really answered my question... I asked what I had done wrong. How did you know anyway? I only joined a few days ago Danni Heaven (talk) 19:59, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Your talk page is viewable by everyone, and you have used it to socialise with your friend, we are here to build an encyclopaedia. Theroadislong (talk) 20:07, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for help... i only talked to her because she has been here longer and she could help me get used to site... we r talking about proper things now Danni Heaven (talk) 10:48, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

David C.Bradley

Hello TRIL,

I've been instructed not to edit Dr. Bradley's page. May I please request that the reference to Justia.com be changed to

http://patents.justia.com/inventor/david-c-bradley

Otherwise, starting from Justia.com, it's quite difficult to find the patent list specific to David Bradley. Thank you!

dh8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandh8 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

The link at reference number 12 which I added already points to this url. Theroadislong (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Fred West

I didn't vandalize Fred West, I never even HEARD of that man, I think one of my family members may have done it. My youtube account does show that that watched videos that I didn't watch.Qazwink (talk) 07:42, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. Theroadislong (talk) 07:54, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

Sources

Hello, You recently removed an edit I had made on the Lindsey Stirling page about her parents because I had no sources; I have now found a source for her father. How could I add that source? Iris Medallion (talk) 18:35, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

See WP:REFSTART for help with formatting references. Theroadislong (talk) 19:21, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

External Links and Secondary Sources Margareta Boivin article

I would like to know what to you mean by External Link as I can see many celebrity has their own External Links(title) example are Celine Dion, Britney Spears, Metallica etc.

also the secondary sources, the only none secondary source used in Margareta Boivin article is her website all the other source are secondery sources. Sebastienb06 (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

You have used her website as a reference 17 times. Please read Wikipedia:GNG. We only summarise what reliable, independent published sources say about the topic, we have no interest in she says about herself. We don't use external links in the main part of the article, only sparingly in the external links section. Theroadislong (talk) 17:54, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Excuse me vandalise Romania i don't think so

Dear: Theroadslong There wrote Romania not was or been that was a unreal reason,and i delete it and you say l'm vandalize it and this is not your first time when you say someone vandalise wikipedia If you not noticed l'm from Romania — Preceding unsigned comment added by TalismanOnline (talk • contribs) 19:20, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

You changed a sentence from "Romania is a sovereign state located in Southeastern Europe." to "Romania is NOT a sovereign state located in Southeastern Europe" Perhaps you didn't mean to? But it looked like vandalism. Theroadislong (talk) 19:42, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Umm i don't think i wrote that,and i don't know what mean sorveign state,i only deletet Romania not was or been (I delete sentece because this information give sign it's fake,and Romania are a real country --Silviu (talk) 05:29, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Here is where you made the change [1] Theroadislong (talk) 05:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Silviu (talk) 19:15, 30 May 2017 (UTC) Hmph,I see my fault,sorry, i now belive i correct fake info and a good info,l'm really sorry Theroadslong!

We all make mistakes, it's easily done, no worries. Theroadislong (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

321 Days in Michigan (film) Review

Draft:321 Days in Michigan This is my first article and I would appreciate very much some feedback/review. thanks GinnevraDubois (talk) 05:34, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Request on 14:08:38, 31 May 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by GinnevraDubois



GinnevraDubois (talk) 14:08, 31 May 2017 (UTC) I do not understand why this article was rejected due to "unreliable sources" Sur and El Mundo are two of the best newspapers in Spain. I have seen other articles (the same topic) with no ref. I think the reviewer is being subjective.

Please readWP:NFILM and WP:NFO. To presume notability, reliable sources should have significant coverage. It is difficult to gauge the coverage as it's all in Spanish. A Spanish speaking reviewer might help?Theroadislong (talk) 14:22, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

TAKE OFF YOUR TAG

What is your problem? Do none of your people have anything better to do. It is a real person and real page with credible sources. Go away and bother actually fake stuff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kfortch (talk • contribs) 21:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Brunei Subaqua Diving Club BSADC,for REVIEW

Hi TRIL

I have to almost laugh at this situation. Sorry I am very new to Wiki and this is my first attempt.

I understand the problem that has been raised BUT the FUNNY side is Wiki has got it backwards All the text/material I have used is mine and i the author and copyright holder of it all. I have posted all of this text and material to OUR/MY website WWW.BSADC.COM at various time.

The site that is cited in the msg I got ""This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.dtb.com.bn/blue-water-wreck/. F""

Is in itself correct - it does say appears!!!!!

Well the reason is they have plagiarised my ww.bsadc.com site, text, indian ink drawings and all.

I am actually not surprised that this site has done so. There are many that have, some with verbal permission, many know me or club and used without asking, or just straight good old plagiarised.

If you use copyright / plagiarised auto search software I/you will have this problem a lot. Our Site was is the Original source and it (and our book for that matter) have been copied by more sites that I can mention.. With the exception of a new Diving Artist on the scene last couple of year who is doing new sketches of all the wrecks..-- Any sketch you see of the American, Blue water, Australian Wreck are all off our site. One or two have been retouched up dated but on our originals.

The same applies to MOST text you see on these wrecks it is either a direct copy or an edit version of our writeups.

Ok I think I have given you the information necessary.

Now what do I do from here ???

I CAN'T PUBLISH BECAUSE LOADS OF OTHER SITE HAVE PUBLISHED MY WORK I do ALMOST see the funny side.


Thanks 

Ngoring (talk) 02:58, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I suggest you read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials Theroadislong (talk) 07:26, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Editing Erin Hills

Hello Theroadislong,

I AM the person, Brenda Williams who designed the logo. I talk about the inspiration and the design BEHIND the logo. No one would know that but me, since I was the creative person on this project. When I explain this story to people lately they find this fascinating and that is why I am adding it also the US Open will be there in a couple of weeks and this will be looked at I would assume more.

Closest source would be at Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).ElliottWilliamsDesign.comCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). where the logo is shown.

Sorry, I am new to this. Thanks for your kind help.

Brenda Williams 14:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

In which case you should absolutely NOT be adding the material at all. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and is not a place to promote your own work. If the logo design has been reported on in sources unconnected to you then it might be possible to add a line by providing the source on the articles talk page, you should not add any content yourself as you have a clear conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 14:31, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello,can you?

I saw you eject my article,i noticed i must add refs I found only one about Buhei Rock it's fine add only a ref in article? User:TalismanOnline (talk) 15:53, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello,can you?

Speed deleting: Romanian profanity, [Italian profanity]], Quebec French profanity Mandarin Chinese profanity and Latin profanity These articles are form of violence covered in swearings words and it's innaporiate articles to a read learn profanity in another languages --Silviu (talk) 05:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

You cannot be serious???Wikipedia is NOT censored, please read WP:CENSORED. Theroadislong (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh i blush now --Silviu (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thank you for correcting us once again, I just thought I should award you this. Iris and I both agree what we did was wrong. Yours, Danni Heaven and Iris Medallion Danni Heaven (talk) 14:21, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

About musicologist Paul-Gilbert Langevin

Hello Theroadislong, It's been one month since the page about Paul-Gilbert Langevin has been added to the category "conflict of interest". I would like to know if the problem has been solved and the page cleaned, corrected and verified. The same page in other languages does not cite the same problem. Paul-Gilbert Langevin, who passed away in 1986, is still considered by other musicologists as the specialist of Anton Bruckner and Franz Schubert's works in Europe. Thank you to give me information about how to solve the problem if it is not done yet. Kind regards, Paul-Eric Langevin (talk) 21:15, 04 June 2017 (UTC)

If you would stop editing the article and only make suggestions on the talk page, perhaps the template could be removed. Theroadislong (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Ok no problem, I stop modifying it and give suggestions if necessary. Thanks in advance, Paul-Eric Langevin (talk) 15:30, 06 June 2017 (UTC)

13:59:17, 5 June 2017 review of submission by 122.164.208.137


Hello Theroadislong, I've modified the article. Is this fine now?

Can you move it to the articles main page?

I'm afraid not, it still reads just like an advert and has serious neutral point of view issues, do you work for the company by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 14:58, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Theroadislong

To answer your question, No.

If I were why would this article be posted after such a long time. I mean the number of years since the company's inception till today. You may perhaps ask why I'm interested in posting this. Well I would like to post anything, now that recent changes in Wiki makes it easier to 'format' articles. I've modified the article once again to remove anything at all that might be advert. Can you please tell me, if there is anything which is not factual? I'd be happy to learn and edit it. 106.208.238.223 (talk) 05:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Tom Syrowski

Dear Theroadislong, thank you for leaving a message on my Talk page. I've posted a reply to you there. Thank you. Soniamaddox (talk) 08:29, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Hemispherx Biopharma

Dear Theroadislong, I proposed an edit for Hemispherx Biopharma where I used the company's SEC filing as the source. This edit was rejected by you. I rewrote the description using an analyst report available online. Is it possible to have a look at the revised proposed edits? Thank you BluebirdHill5 (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry but that's not how editing works you don't re-write the whole article using a single reference! Please take one sentence at a time and suggest your change with a suitable source. Theroadislong (talk) 15:31, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

18:38:41, 9 June 2017 review of submission by 122.174.152.93


Dear Theroadislong, I've replied to your comment in the Talk page.

Hope you received it. Thanks a lot for your time.

Are there any issues with the article now?

Everything has been substantiated with a reference.

It still reads like an advert. Wikipedia requires articles to be written in a neutral tone, do you have a connection with the company by any chance? Theroadislong (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong To answer your question, No.

If I were why would this article be posted after such a long time. I mean the number of years since the company's inception till today. You may perhaps ask why I'm interested in posting this. Recent changes in Wiki makes it easier to 'format' articles. I've modified the article once again to remove anything at all that might be advert. Can you please tell me, if there is anything which is not factual? I'd be happy to learn and edit it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.152.93 (talk) 00:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Question

I saw all of your messages and I have a wiki related question. Dinah Kirkland (talk) 17:17, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

And i just want to say that i haven't left hundreds of those custom made messages. I'm just trying to be a good editor and welcome newcomers as well. It would be very helpful if you gave me some advice and helped me a bit. Dinah Kirkland (talk) 17:23, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

about removing pronunciations in "Dhaka"

Thank you sir for your assistance.The pronunciations are wrong as far as I think . Foreign people would pronounce the word 'Dhaka' as 'Deka' as the pronunciation of 'dh' part of 'Dhaka' is absent in English.Many "Bangladeshi" people find it offensive if it is pronounced like that.If you want I can send the audio recording of the correct pronunciation.If there is any problem in my explanation please let me know.I hope you would be kind to look into the matter and help.please leave a reply.Wholecube (talk) 14:25, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Draft Magnus Penker

Hi Theroadislong!

I have now updated my draft on "Magnus Penker" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Magnus_Penker). If you have time, maybe you can take a look at it? I would be very grateful!

Best Regards Strongline123 (talk) 06:47, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

13:24:26, 12 June 2017 review of submission by Sphillips920


Hi Theroadislong. Thank you for reviewing my article. I have made a few edits but I'd like to know how else I can improve. The reason for rejection states, "independent, reliable, published sources." My article includes 18 sources that are independent published sources. Is there a better way to incorporate these to be given acceptance for my article? Are there specific areas of this article that read more like propaganda than encyclopedia? My aim is to write a factual article about this notable company with over 67 years of history. I plan to add more of that history in the future.

Your sources include press releases and blogs neither of which are considered suitable, we require in depth coverage in independent, reliable sources. You should also declare any conflict of interest Theroadislong (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Robert_Ferguson is not an autobiography

Thank you for your message regarding the Wikipedia policy on submitting autobiographies. My article about Robert L. Ferguson is not an autobiography. I created an account with the name RLFerguson to submit an article about him, but I am Sallie J. Ortiz, a freelance science and energy writer. Robert Ferguson has been a significant influence and lifelong promoter of nuclear technology for peaceful uses in both the government and private industry. I foresee that I will be able to add more documented material about his work in producing the vital medical isotope, Mo99, using a much safer method than currently exists. Do I need to move this article draft to a different account to prove it is not an autobiography? Thanks again, SallieRLFerguson (talk) 16:10, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

No but you need to change your user name immediately. Theroadislong (talk) 16:13, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Elixir Press page

Hello! I see that you have flagged the Elixir Press page. I am still learning about sources, but I would ask that the conflict of interest tag be removed, as I do not have a conflict of interest -- I only asked for help in a forum. Apologies in advance, as I am even sure that I am leaving this message in the right place. Booksnob (talk) 18:01, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Please sir REMOVE THE "BAN" OF THE ARTICLE

This article talks about a young entrepreneur who is only 16 years old from Albania and is the member of 5 organizations all over the Europe and he is the Co -founder of MODEX9 and Ceo of Digital Design he has won a lot of 1st prizes and been awarded so many times you can see his works ant projects everywhere you click , I recommend you to do that , and why not you like them . 😊


Have a good day !

Rexhino Kovaci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexhino Kovaci (talk • contribs) 19:57, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

You have created an autobiography on your user page which is a page for telling people more about how you edit Wikipedia. Please use WP:AFC for creating articles. Theroadislong (talk) 20:01, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest Tag

Please remove the conflict of interest tag. I'm not the real William Bouguereau. He's been dead for a hundred years, and I'm not related to him either. William Bouguereau (talk) 21:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I have not suggested you are the actual person or related to him, though it's pretty clear you have a conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 21:57, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

In Line citations for David J. Marshall, Jr.

Hi Theroadislong, Please let me know where you need to see in line citations in the article I posted about my late father. Please let me know what it needs and I'll be happy to accommodate. Thanks, John J. MarshallJJMarshall1961 (talk) 18:24, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Each sentence requires a source. But you first need to show that he meets Wikipedia's requirements for notability - basically, it appears there has not been enough material published about him to base an article on. (Wikipedia has no interest in what you or I know or think about him, and little interest in what he or his associates have said or published: it is only interested in what people unconnected with him have published about him in reliable places such as major newspapers). Theroadislong (talk) 18:41, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Request on 08:37:57, 16 June 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by JosephCaley


I am enquiring to determine the exact reasons behind the TrustATrader page firstly, being removed, and secondly, being marked for Speedy Deletion. I must clarify that I am not in any way associated with TrustATrader or any kind of agency trying to use the wikipedia page to promote the brand or increase its search rankings. If this is the main reason for the article being marked for Speedy Deletion, please can this be noted. Of course, I am not sure what has happened in the past regarding possible previous attempts to create this page for marketing purposes, but this is certainly not the case in this instance.

I would also like some clarification as to what parts of the content are being deemed as 'advertising'. I have made one revision in which I removed quite a bit of content, which after review, may have been deemed as 'advertising'. Another wikipedia page - Rated people, is in a similar field to TrustATrader, and looking at their page, I cannot see stark differences between the two regarding content. All of the content on the TrustATrader page is entirely encyclopedic using good sources. If you are able to give me some further information as to what sections of the page need editing, I will make sure to look at the content and work on it further to make sure it is not deemed as 'advertising'. Thank you. JosephCaley (talk) 08:37, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I have nominated Rated people for deletion as it appears to be a non notable company. You would have to ask the users who deleted the article why they thought it was advertising, I cannot see it as I'm not an admin. Theroadislong (talk) 13:01, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Wexford alumni

Hello, you deleted my submission on the Wexford collegiate page and I added a reference from a verified website to prove validity but you deleted it again. This is for a friend and after giving a proper reference and citation it still apparently isn't enough. Whatever — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akent114 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

The person isn't notable in Wikipedia terms and the source you gave doesn't mention that he went to the school? Theroadislong (talk) 18:24, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

for hire

Hi, do you take on clients to manage pages and updates on Wiki?

No that is against all Wikipedias policies. Theroadislong (talk) 18:46, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

FAVOR

Can you please tell C.Fred to unblock Travis9999999. He has been crying for hours. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.228.169.182 (talk) 02:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

decline Deborah Claire Procter

Thanks Therodislong. I'm happy that wikipedia is so exigent - that's what makes it so important. I've trimmed this biography to respond to where citation was not possible. For instance Creative Wales Award is very prestigious but they do not have any online record of members at this stage. I intend to speak to them about this and will re add when they provide a reference point. Also some older newspapers and local newspapers do not maintain online records so I have also cut those references to make it easier. Please note that four newspapers from Argentina are referenced which are the big four (just like in the UK there is the Guardian, Telegraph and Times). Where in the world are you from? I wonder if you just didn't release that these newspapers are so important - there is no reason you would have to know. Federico Monjeau and Diego Fischerman are the most famous music critics in Argentina therefore it would seem that significance has been demonstrated. Wales Arts International also do not maintain online records so for convenience those references have also been removed. Happy to keep tweaking for accuracy, however I think now it is substantially improved and therefore demonstrates the requisites. I appreciate your spirit of excellence and wish you a good weekend. Bristlewood (talk) 05:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Re Page Deborah Claire Procter

Being a fellow of Royal Society of Arts demonstrates a significant trajectory as does winning Creative Wales Award. Bristlewood (talk) 00:35, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Being a fellow of Royal Society of Arts certainly helps although you haven't referenced it, but the Creative Wales Award is not a notable award. Theroadislong (talk) 08:02, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

What makes you say that Creative Wales Award is not a significant award? Equally many other people have added RSA without a reference. I will ask RSA how to prove a fellowshipBristlewood (talk) 05:51, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Curiosly question

My article Buhei Rock the reference completed,but was not yet reviewed,if i compelete the article's dilema can i move at article or that is inappropriate? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TalismanOnline (talk • contribs) 16:13, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

It is written in very poor English, I would suggest that you do not move it. Theroadislong (talk) 17:08, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Okay thanks you --Silviu (talk) 18:04, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Natalie Van Vleck

Thank you for looking at my article. So, I understand that I cannot use information or quotes that come from the subject herself, such as from her lectures and her diaries? Can I use information that came from an interview with the curator/archivist of the Natalie Van Vleck collection of art at Flanders Nature Center?

Do all sources used need to be from a written source? Are there any exceptions? Can I use information that comes from the website of Flanders Nature Center & Land Trust, that was founded by Natalie Van Vleck? thanks very much. I am new at this! ````Joan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vanvleck (talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Those are primary sources which do not establish notability. Wikipedia requires there to be in-depth coverage in reliable, independent published sources. Theroadislong (talk) 08:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Notability of Girish Jhunjhnuwala article

A couple of weeks ago you tagged Girish Jhunjhnuwala with {{notability}}. Wanted to know your reasoning. It has had two AfDs, one concluded just two weeks before you tagged the article. He has profiles in Businessweek, South China Morning Post and EJ Insight. The New York Times wrote 5 paras on him in a piece on serviced apartments in Hong Kong. —A L T E R C A R I  ✍ 13:51, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

I have removed the template as it survived the afd, though sources seem poor and his hotel group barely passed notability with a no consensus at it's last afd. Problems with coi editing too. Theroadislong (talk) 17:26, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Varicocele

Theroadislong How do I talk with someone on wikipedia this platform is retarded... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joltzipper (talk • contribs) 16:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

If you wish to discuss the content of the Varicocele article you can do that here Talk:Varicocele but if you keep edit warring you are likely to be blocked very soon. According to the talk page your edit contains unsourced content, content not supported by the adjacent ref, and a journal from a predatory publisher (Baishideng). Theroadislong (talk) 16:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

This your best friend

What is your user name. I'm trying to help Wikipedia but it won't let me for some reason. 2602:306:CE4A:9B60:8522:E1B5:F10A:495C (talk) 22:25, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

References

Hi I'm new to Wikipedia abs I'm trying to establish a page for a borne dj who has reached game and prominence, I love this new style of music and wish more artists would also do the same type of genre. However I don't know exactly how to add my references can you help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardsylelovers (talk • contribs) 14:32, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello....Gryphon Investors

Hello Theroadislong,

I started the Gryphon Investors article page a few months back. Looks like some other people have made edits but didn't do so well and didn't source. Also looks like you edited that copy out.

I notice that I can't find the page when I Google it (but I can get there if I go to Wikipedia and then search it). Is that related to the recent edits/changes?

Thanks.

2601:192:4700:32E1:CC7E:9D70:A3FE:6FEF (talk) 17:03, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Why would you want to find it in Google? Wikipedia has no interest in how Google returns searches. Theroadislong (talk) 17:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Since the article has been created it would be nice if internet users could find it. Is there a reason why I can't find it on Google, but I can find the "talk' page associated with it? Thank you.Arsenl2017 (talk) 16:18, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

References #2 sorry

Hi it's hardstyle lovers crew again I didn't edit correctly I meant to say "for a New Dj who has reached FAME and Prominence" basically I was wondering if you could help me with my references. How do I add them and a picture? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardsylelovers (talk • contribs) 14:40, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Please read WP:REFSTART for help with references, don't worry about photographs until the article is accepted. Theroadislong (talk) 18:47, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Nord Anglia International School Hong Kong

Hi! I found some SCMP articles about this school. I'd like to add sourced content from them, then take this draft and immediately move it into the article space. I already removed what I thought was a bit advertisement-oriented. Hope that's fine with you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Sure if you have sufficient sources go ahead. Theroadislong (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Two from the SCMP, one about a political controversy involving the school attempting to open another campus: Nord Anglia International School Hong Kong WhisperToMe (talk) 07:03, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Review of inappropriate "puffery" banner on article on economist Thomas M. Humphrey

The "puffery" banner is not appropriate for the article Thomas M. Humphrey and should be removed. Please address your responses to the talk page for the article so that we may discuss the issue in the context of complete discussion with other editors.--Mitzi.humphrey (talk) 15:14, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Article has been improved since the addition of those templates, I have removed them. Theroadislong (talk) 15:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Hemispherx Biopharma

Good day, Theroadislong, Per your comments, I have left a new suggested revision on the talk page. thank you, BluebirdHill5 (talk) 15:31, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

09:21:32, 24 June 2017 review of submission by Coxnix


I think the Live Mint article discusses the subject in Depth.

Yes but we need clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 09:28, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Please check the added ref list added. And in the WP:COMPANY included sources are independent of the subject and include the discuss the subject in the light of notability. WP:GNG

cosnis 10:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coxnix (talk • contribs) 09:55, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Wiki cannot be used as a reference

Can you tell me specifically which wiki link you don't like? I agree I submitted this for review before it was ready. I did that in part b/c I believed it would take you 3 weeks to read it and planned to have it developed within that time frame. Thanks. Davidchugg (talk) 19:49, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

You have used Wikipedia as a reference in 7 instances, these need to be replaced with Wikipedia links instead for example Indian Ocean, you use the square brackets to create links to other Wikipedia articles, the content will still need referencing though. Theroadislong (talk) 19:57, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

best kashmiri saffron comes from india.....

why r u not allowing constructive edits....

they are NOT constructive edits, you are copying and pasting promotional content from your own website! Theroadislong (talk) 09:43, 28 June 2017 (UTC)


best saffron in the world comes from India...What is promotional in that...?

you should refer some concrete information before abruptly removing any edits....

And what is promotional in writing about storage and packing of saffron.....

Saffron storage techniques shall educate people....

You are just in a rush to become top editor in wikipedia....

zero information , zero writing skills....

This shows your stupidity towards any constructive writing....

Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste. Theroadislong (talk) 10:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

23:38:26, 28 June 2017 review of submission by RepsHelperMS


Because several of his fellow members of the Mississippi House of Representatives have Wiki Pages and they have 1 reference similar to the one I included. I would like to email you several samples. He is notable because he is a politician who is making a difference. I will resubmit with additional reference.

Your draft has no references at all, please add references to the article, you don't need to email them. Theroadislong (talk) 09:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Lucy Rose Last Name

Hi Theroadislong,

You messaged me saying that I didn't adequately explain why I removed the "Parton" from Lucy Rose's name on two sections of her Wikipedia page. I work for Lucy's record label and she's informed us that she does not publicly want to be known as Lucy Rose Parton, even if it's just where her "birth name" is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helenmusic21 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't allow people to control minor aspects of their Wikipedia pages in that manner. Theroadislong (talk) 16:14, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest

Hi,

Thanks for your message. I am only an intern at the organization, and really have no strong bias for it. I have tried to use neutral language and have included plenty of external references so as to make sure it is credible and to avoid any biases. I welcome any edits you might have. As the page is, I do not believe I violate any of Wiki's policies, but let me know please if this is not the case. Where would I disclose my connection to the company?

You need to disclose your connection on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 20:23, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I have now done so. Thanks for your vigilance and I now hope someone can give me feedback in the hopes of eventually getting this page to go live

it s about your vandalize multiple time without adding nothing to Adam article

Do not vandalize please, and explain why you want to force you christian point of view of Adam instead of the truth. If you are sure that Adam is like what Michelangelo drawn then gave your source instead of vandalizing without even explain why you vandalize Badrelmers (talk) 07:39, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

It is you who is vandalising by adding your opinions to the article, you have been asked many times to discuss on the article talk page, instead you have edit warred. You will be blocked very soon unless you stop. Theroadislong (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

16:44:25, 30 June 2017 review of submission by Anihooks


Hello I am a student of IIT Roorkee. I have made my first article about an Indian company named Soulflower, for learning purpose. I had taken a reference from different media coverage, designed the article according to NPOV. But unfortunately it was denied acceptance. From the coverage point of view, I did more research and found these: https://news.franchiseindia.com/wellness/Soulflower-launches-Rosehip-oil-for-aging-skin-n14573 and then explored about it in different articles. Some reliable media sources which has covered Soulflower are mentioned here • The Hindu has covered Soulflower in these articles: http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blink/cover/package-deal/article6221716.ece http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/homegrown-bath-and-body-brands-eye-bigger-pie/article4644139.ece http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/fashion/Beauty-without-the-beast-organic-eco-friendly-and-vegan-cosmetics-in-India/article17381697.ece • The Economic Times has covered Soulflower in these articles: http://retail.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/health-and-beauty/cosmetics-and-fragrances/soulflower-eyes-opportunities-in-natural-cosmetics-perfumes/58681326 http://brandequity.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/marketing/cats-and-star-signs-put-the-soul-in-body-care-brand-soulflower/58474506 • Forbes India has covered Soulflower in this article: http://www.forbesindia.com/article/weschool/can-retailers-afford-to-ignore-omnichannel-strategy-in-todays-age/44449/1 • Mint has Covered Soulflower in this article: http://www.livemint.com/Industry/RtzAZg9nEebhNJ1BGX5vbM/Retailers-shut-brickandmortar-stores-go-online-to-offset.html • Business World has covered Soulflower in this article: http://bwdisrupt.businessworld.in/article/Soulflower-Announces-Network-Expansion-To-6000-Local-Stores-Retail-Outlets-Pharmacy-Stores/05-05-2017-117674/ • Point of Purchase magazine January edition. Kindly guide me.

I suggest you add some of them to the draft article. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

In case of vandalise...Help

Hello Theroadislong! How I report a vandaliser like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/31.53.10.95 ,he vandalising wikipedia,Evidances: [positive:Homo######] Thanks to Cluebot NG Sincery,I checked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog are lots of Wikipedia-Vandalisers,can you tell me how i report them? --Silviu (talk) 17:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

The user hasn't edited in three years so not really any point in reporting them. Theroadislong (talk) 17:16, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

If the user vandalised wikipedia edit (example:right now) are a point to report them? --Silviu (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Pontius Pilate talk page

Hi, you accused me of "disruptive editing" of the Pontius Pilate talk page. I don't think this is a fair accusation. I was attempting to communicate with User:HaileyNKim that their joke wasn't funny and it didn't belong on the page. This is more constructive than just deleting what they say as if they were never there. All that is going to do is make them angry and increase any hostility they may have towards wikipedia. I am aware that this is likely the same person vandalising the main Pontius Pilate page. But 5 minutes of calm reflection should be enough to conclude that trying to reach out to them on the article's talk page can only be beneficial. I should reiterate - this is a talk page, it is not meant to look pretty and conform to rules. It is meant to facilitate discussion to improve the article. Woscafrench (talk) 11:53, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I would suggest that it is best not to feed the trolls as in WP:DNFTT. Theroadislong (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Watercolor painting

I noticed you removed a large block of links and sources from Watercolor painting. What did you mean by "trim back the link farm"?

it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a lengthy or comprehensive list of external links related to each topic. No page should be linked from a Wikipedia article unless its inclusion is justifiable according to this guideline and common sense. The burden of providing this justification is on the person who wants to include an external link. Theroadislong (talk) 07:49, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm aware that Wikipedia is not a repository of external links, but some of those links were sources. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
They appeared to be personal blogs about how to paint? Which ones are you suggesting were sources? Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
I think I found at least a few sources that were good. I think I'll go check. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 08:40, 3 July 2017 (UTC) UPDATE: I admit I used a few bad sources UPDATE 2: Most of the sources looked good though. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 09:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC) I looked at the sources and links, and though one or two was bad, they mostly looked like good sites. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Request on 09:33:55, 3 July 2017 for assistance on AfC submission by DanielleDriveWorks


Hello @Theroadislong:, I got your message about the draft:DriveWorks page being declined as it sounds like an advertisement. Please could you give me some more guidance on which bits are causing it to be declined? This page has been active since 2008 and was only flagged for deletion as I was a new editor (this highlighted there were issues with references). I was advised to establish notability, which I did with guidance from admins and then added more when it was declined by another admin. I removed a lot of the text from the original article and kept it to the bare minimum so it's factual about the software - all of which is backed up with a wide range of independent sources. I'm very lost now as to why it still sounds like an advert and would much appreciate some help from an experienced editor :( Thanks, Danielle DanielleDriveWorks (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

DanielleDriveWorks (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

The Methodology section reads like an advert and should probably be removed entirely. The editions section is just promotional and the Version history is also only sourced to their website and not required. Theroadislong (talk) 10:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello @Theroadislong:, thanks for your reply. The 'editions' section isn't promotional, but intended to be factual, as there are different types of DriveWorks and they are all seperate pieces of software. 'DriveWorks' isn't just one product, it's several editions which are all different products - some which are included in other software, which is why we broke it down so I don't understand why you think this is promotional? This isn't advertising software, and the section also contains sources to professional engineering magazines speaking about the different software so it's backed up with notable sources.

The version history is purely there so people know which version is the latest one - I can remove the list of past versions if you think it's irrelevant? There aren't any independant sources linked to this as when a new version is released DriveWorks users just tend to go onto the latest one. No-one would ever really need to write about previous editions and any references to old editions are outdated articles (I read the referencing guide related to using very old sources and it said to be cautious).

In the 'methodology' section, I tried to give a general overview of DriveWorks, but I understand why you think it sounds like an advert - sorry about that. If I remove the part from 'The DriveWorks API allows custom plug ins to be written.....' do you think that would make it sound less like an advert? I think some part of this section needs to remain or the article doesn't really explain what DriveWorks is but rather just the impact on the market.

Thanks again for your help and sorry for the long message! :) Danielle DanielleDriveWorks (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

The problems you are having are precisely the reason why it is strongly encouraged that you don't write about yourself or your company. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which summarises what independent sources have published about subjects and has essentially no interest in what anybody says or wants to say about themselves or their company, on Wikipedia we need reliable sources independent of the subject. I will allow another reviewer to decide, when you resubmit. Theroadislong (talk) 16:52, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey @Theroadislong:, Ok understood. I will ask for help at the teahouse as I really need some guidance on how I can fix the issues before I re-submit it for review. Someone else wrote this page orginally, so my intention was only to update it as it was very outdated so wasn't really providing good information for your readers about DriveWorks. Thanks for you help anyway, it's appreciated :) Danielle DanielleDriveWorks (talk) 07:56, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

draft Amsterdam fashion academy

Theroadislong, Thank you for looking at my first attempt at an Wikipedia page. I have edited the text to try and make it sound less commercial and more encyclopedic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Amsterdam_Fashion_Academy Please feel free to further edit the text and references to make it acceptable as a Wikpedia page. I am finding it so complicated and getting all mixed up between references, notes and links etc. All help would be most welcome. All I want to do is have a listing of the Amsterdam Fashion Academy so readers know what it is and what it does.

Thanks in advance Graeme Cunningham — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graemecun (talk • contribs) 09:13, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Theroadislong,

The page itself is not existing as of now and thus editing the existing page or giving comments on page is not an option I believe. I can disclose my relation to the company details and can give a neutral and factual info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faisal.pcm (talk • contribs) 11:13, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

About musicologist Paul-Gilbert Langevin

Hello Theroadislong,

This is the message I got from Brian Newbould: "There may be difficulty with the Wikipedia article because you wrote it yourself.  You need to get someone outside the family but with knowledge of your father and of the musical world to validate it. They could read it through and say that it is accurate (if they think it is) but perhaps change or add something here and there. I will still ask others about this."

Paul-Eric Langevin (talk) 12:20, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are asking here? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent, reliable sources say about a topic.

You need to establish notability by adding references that show there is widespread coverage of him in reliable sources, we are not interested in what you or anyone else knows about him. Theroadislong (talk) 10:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


Talk

Let's talk Wikibhushan (talk) 15:51, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Re: Promotional material

I'm afraid I do not follow. I was merely restructuring the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peaceout33 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but by your standard, other university pages also have promotional material.

I see what you mean. If you're referring to the external links, I shall edit that out. I did not add the external links when I was editing the page. It was there previously.

Which part of my content is not neutral???

How is promoting the names of the Chancellor, Vice Chancellor and number of courses neutral anyway?!

Sentences like “with Bristol being one of the most creative cities in the UK.” are not neutral. Theroadislong (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
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