User talk:Theseeker4

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MegaPrint

I am trying to understand how users such as VistaPrint can have a page up, but when I try writing an article about a similar print company it gets deleted. I have rewriten the content, but I don't know if I dare put it up? Is there a way to have others look at it first?--MegaPrint (talk) 13:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think VistaPrint is an advertisement, but I can't mark it for speedy deletion as it is not a new page. I think the biggest problem you will face with creating a page about MegaPrint is that you are blatantly associated with the company. To overcome this conflict of interest I suggest you cite as many reliable, non-press release sources as possible. Third party analysis, etc. should be used. You also need to concentrate on why the company is notable, not simply list the strong points of the company. Even then, you will probably be tagged with a speedy delete template; when you are, place the hold on template on the page and make your argument in the discussion page. An admin looking at the page will then decide whether to delet it or not. Good luck.Theseeker4 (talk) 15:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Talkback!

Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 17:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Um, why notify me of the tagging? I tagged the article myself, so obviously I knew of the tagging, then WP:TW recreated it because of some glitch. -- Mentisock

Sure, welcome to a world of glitches. ;-) -- Mentisock 13:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

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Template Substitution

Hi there. When you add a Test template to a user’s page please remember to substitute it. If wish to reply please use my talk page and if you need help feel free to talk to me there or you may find Wikipedia:SUB helpful. ·Add§hore· ^Talk/_Cont 16:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Environmental Data Resources

Theseeker4

Our company has been around since 1990 and has a 85% market share in providing environmental data to the industry. We are the de facto source for information in this space, effectively the "Kleenex" of the industry.

I've read pages for Microsoft and it is not clear how the neutral language of the last post might be seen as promotional.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huntresj (talk • contribs) 15:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

The problem is two-fold; first, you are associated with the company you are writing about, and therefore you are in violation of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Secondly, you need to provide reliable, verifiable third party sources for articles, especially an article about a business. If you write an article about a business, even if it seems to be neutral, it is still in violation of Wikipedia:Spam as it is promoting the company using the company itself as a source. Any other questions, feel free to ask, and please sign your posts on talk pages with 4 tildes (~). thanks Theseeker4 (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the guidance. We'll follow the protocols set forth and look for other industry experts to make the post. Huntresj (talk) 16:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)huntresj

You left me a warning

What did I vandalise??

I mistakenly placed the warning on the wrong talk page. I was attempting to warn a different anonymous user. I removed the warning.Theseeker4 (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Air Europa Flight 196

An article that you have been involved in editing, Air Europa Flight 196, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Air Europa Flight 196. Thank you. Mjroots (talk) 07:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

New entry

Hello. I don't know if I'm e-mailing a real person, but I went online to search for my new entry under CAHPERD and got some sort of message about a speedy deletion. I don't know what it means, but I think that CAHPERD should have an entry in wikipedia. The message said something about adding "hang on" to the article, but I don't really know what that means.

There are a lot of National and State Associations and Organizations on wikipedia and CAHPERD should be one of them. I have been to some of their conferences and they are a leader in supporting K-12 Physical Educators and many other professionals.

Please send me a response (or e-mail) with what this all means. Thank you.

-Jessie airmarsupilami@hotmail.com

A couple of issues exist. The main one is that the article you created did not establish the notability of this specific group. This is not saying that the group is not notable, it is simply saying you did not write an article that clearly says why Wikipedia should include the group. Second, since you are saying you are a member, you risk a conflict of interest. Articles in Wikipedia should have third party sources and citations to help establish notability. That doesn't mean you cannot write an article about a subject in which you are involved, it simply means you need to be even more careful to back up statements with third party citations. I suggest checking out the welcome page and the page about writing your first article for more information. The page is currently tagged, but you can always re-create it if you can do so in a way that avoids conflict of interest and notability issues. Feel free to respond to me if you have any other questions. Also, sign your entries on talk pages with 4 tildes (~) to make it easier for users to know who wrote what on talk pages.Theseeker4 (talk) 20:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Ideal Innovations, Inc.

The article "Ideal Innovations, Inc." is meant to only be informational about the company, not promote them. I have added all the citations and hope that will help. Is there something else I can do to make it more "encyclopedic"? I tried to mirror it after other company's articles. Ideal3231 (talk) 20:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, the biggest issue I see is that it reads like a press release, and has citations to the company's own website, which is problematic regarding conflict of interest concerns. I would find third party citations that determine why the company is notable, meaning citations other than the company itself or quotes of the company's press releases from media outlets, and then you should be good to go. Theseeker4 (talk) 20:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Would you mind checking the Ideal Innovations, Inc. page again? I've removed the link to the company's website and added a few articles from the Washington Post, Tech Bisnow, GlobalSecurity.org and ExecutiveBiz that mention the company without quoting from a press release. Ideal3231 (talk) 21:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Questioning deletion

Good day,

I placed an article yesterday, which was immediately deleted and the cause given was "blatant adertising":

A tag has been placed on IXeo, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article.

I am wondering why this is the case, because it was all factual information and followed a similar pattern as the Expedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedia

So my questions is why is one advertising and the other not?

Reiseplanerin (talk) 07:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I agree that Expedia article is also advertising, and have placed a tag indicating as much on the page. The biggest thing you need to do to avoid having your article deleted in the future if you wish to recreate it is to establish its notability using reliable, thrid party sources. This means do not rely on the company's own website, press releases (even if reprinted by third party media outlets) or blogs. Yes, there are many articles in Wikipedia that are in violation of these guidelines, but that is why Wikipedia is constantly being edited. Even without my tagging the article for deletion myself, it will likely be tagged by some other new page patroller. The article needs to be written in an encyclopedic fashion and not seem to be simply promoting the compnay. If you can write it in that way, and provide sufficient thrid party sources to indicate why this particular company is notable, the article will probably survive administrator examination. Remember that myself, and anyone else who simply tags a page for deletion, are not admins, and it is up to the admin to ultimately decide if the article deserves deletion or deserves to remain.Theseeker4 (talk) 13:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Mikala Clark

The first time that someone on my account put an article in about Mikala was my brother. And i just made the page better, she's my best friend! So how can saying that she's a talented 8th grade student be an "attack"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MR.Dr.Prof.Me (talk • contribs) 19:42, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

You really shouldn't be a newsarticle edit man. you suck at it. its sad when a girl can't write nice things about her best friend.