User talk:YannickFran

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June 2013[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm Codename Lisa. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Internet Explorer 10, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Codename Lisa (talk) 17:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, my friend. Thanks for the reply. I am looking at your image right now and the version number does not read 10.0.1. It reads 10.0.9200. 9200 is bigger than 1. And what about the date? Can you point me to a place where I can download this 10.0.1 and see its release date?
By the way, what is "maart"?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
10.0.1 is the name of IE version 10.0.9200.16466, the original versionnumber was 10.0.9200.16384 (IE10 RTM), it's where the table is ment for: to display all released versions of IE10. Microsoft just uses an easier name for their updates then the full versionnumber... For example, here is the bolgpost about Internet Explorer 9.0.11: --YannickFran (talk) 20:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I later realized. Thanks. However, our WP:NOTCHANGELOG policy says articles should not list just every version release unless when they are subject of a critical commentary. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 01:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
In that case: did I miss something? Firefox#Release history, Google Chrome#Release history, PlayStation Portable system software, PlayStation 3 software, PlayStation Vita system software, etc. I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is full of those thing, and it seems no one cares and keeps updating them, rather than removing them, beside, that's what's discriped in WP:NOTCHANGELOG. All changelogs I mentioned contains stuff that's completely irrelevant, or even mentions that there are "unknown changes". But what I did, just completing a list there already was, is against the rules? It's not even a changelog on that page, it's just a table that contains release dates of updates for IE. A changelog also metions what's changed (that why it's called a "changelog"). No, seriously?--YannickFran (talk) 14:24, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 11[edit]


I'll keep it short. Edit warring is bad for a lot of reasons, but one that especially might appeal to you is that it is never successful. You can take the issue to the article talk page or at least try to listen to objection raised in the reverter's edit summary and adjust your subsequent edit respectively.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 13:19, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Microsoft Lumia -> Windows Phone 8 GDR2 Vs. Windows Phone 8 Update 2[edit]

Hello I've seen that you renamed it to "Update 2" because it has officially been renamed retroactively, retroactive renaming doesn't work in articles as changelogs should be written from a contemporary perspective, for example here on Wikipedia Windows Phone 6 and Windows Phone 5 (which both have been retroactively rebranded to Windows Phone) are still called Windows Mobile 5 and Windows Mobile 6 on Wikipedia because the retroactive rebranding wasn't used until after the Windows Phone 7 Series were released, another example would be how I wrote "Nokia Camera" in Lumia Cyan and "Lumia Camera" in Lumia Denim. Also I searched and Lumia Amber itself was a codename so you did in fact add all the firmware codenames. Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 19:26, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Windows Mobile 5 and Windows Mobile 6 have never been rebranded to Windows Phone 5 and Windows Phone 6. Neither was Nokia Camera retroactively rebranded, it got a new brand with an update and was part of Lumia Denim already. As GDR2 is a codename, "Update 2" is the official name of the update.--YannickFran (talk) 19:44, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Nope, Windows Phone 5 and 6 were used on the Microsoft Community as "Windows Phone 6.5 and earlier" as you can see here, GDR wasn't a codename it was official GDR3 was the only one that was officially unveiled as "Update 3" in fact the Windows Phone 8 page mentions this, and I never stated that the Nokia Camera was "retroactively" rebranded, that was Windows Mobile, the Nokia Camera was simply rebranded (which is also metioned in the Wikitable), but I stated that the template should use contemporary names, otherwise we should be re-writing every Windows Mobile page as well. Sincerely, --Namlong618 (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Apparently the article changed it, but still contemporary evidence suggests that Update 3 was the first not to be officially refered to as "GDR" as you can read here, but that's the only thing I wanted to make clear concerning the naming I'll discuss it with others on the WP8 article as well, anyhow cheers. --Namlong618 (talk) 20:24, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of ModernBB for deletion[edit]

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Incorrect use of {{version}}[edit]


You should have by now noticed our small dispute on Windows 10, Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Mobile articles. We can go to talk page about them and I don't insist if the community as a whole agrees with you, or if you have better reasons, or even if I had a busy day tomorrow and thought it's not worth a dispute resolution. Face-wink.svg

Except one thing: Never use {{version}} only because you like the color! If you like the color, copy and paste it. {{version}} has semantic meanings that many Wikipedia apps depend on. Using it properly is a matter of good coding or bad coding. Happy editing.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 17:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh, and in Windows 10 Mobile some of your numbers were wrong. For example, you had added two 10051 and 12498 was missing. Please double-check. —Codename Lisa (talk) 17:41, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Update: I restored version numbers in Windows 10 Mobile to your edit. You know, a reason provided in an edit summary would have helped. This was by far your most important edit. It deserved a dedicated revision and a dedicated edit summary. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 19:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
The summary clearly stated "also drop random usage of build number and software version to indicate releases". How much more clear can it get?--YannickFran (talk) 20:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I can't see how it explains changing 10.0.12534.56 into 10.0.10051. I still don't quite understand where 10.0.12534.56 has come from. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
"random usage of build number and software version". 12534 is the software version, 10051 indicates the Windows NT kernel and is what actually should be used as it is the only version number that is apparent in all versions of the preview and the one used in communication.--YannickFran (talk) 08:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thanks for your cooperative work on Windows articles. Codename Lisa (talk) 12:50, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
Congratulations. Wanted to say the same thing myself. Fleet Command (talk) 20:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: Research[edit]

Re [1], you might want to consider that reducing the references of an article by 33 % hardly furthers "research". Anyway, next time use the talk page to explain your proposals and rationale. Nemo 17:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

I couldn't care less about the number of sources you've added. I can add a bunch of sources in an article that hasn't anything do with the subject and call it a day too. The fact that you added 4 columns to that table and didn't even fill 81% of the fields you added says enough about the quality of your contribution. As if that wasn't enough, another 11% of the filled fields are just saying "Maybe" and adding even more insult to injury, one of these even has to question its own content; "plugin?". How can a feature 'maybe' be included? What does that mean? It's part of one download and not of another? It's either Yes, No, Plugin or Planned. If you add a column, that's fine, but you should make sure that it actually adds some value to the article and do proper research for every forum software in the list, not just the ones you like. Neither is that table for how features are implemented (OAuth, server-side plugin; that's all irrelevant in this table), it is there for whether it is available in the particular software or not. --YannickFran (talk) 21:31, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Please place your proposals for the article on the article talk. Nemo 21:29, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Seriously? You are the one who should place a proposal. You are after all the one who continuously is trashing the page. And heck, you are the one who didn't take this to the articles talk page in the first place, don't blame me for your mistakes. --YannickFran (talk) 08:15, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for commenting on the talk page! It's sad to see that you had not looked to the talk page before (otherwise you'd know that I placed my proposal there in October). Nemo 08:20, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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March 2016[edit]

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Features new to Windows 10[edit]

Hello, Can you help me with the article in my sandbox? I can move the contents from my sandbox to yours if you like it that way. I really don't think I will be able to finish that article on my own. Thanks, Chandradeep Dey (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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