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Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017

Editorial: Conservation data

The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters.

Dorstenia elata, a critically endangered South American herb, contained in Moraceae, the family of figs and mulberries

Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals.

ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden.

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Hello!

Are we having fun yet? Gujerat (talk) 14:06, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

The article Caring for Carers Ireland has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:ORG

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. South Nashua (talk) 17:19, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

South Nashua, thanks for notifying me. I have now merged Caring for Carers Ireland into Family Carers Ireland. Hope you find that an acceptable outcome. If not, do please let me know, so that we can look for a good way forward. Thanks again! zazpot (talk) 19:02, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

Uniqlo

I think my sentence might have confused you. When I said my link "is not an appropriate link as it was taken from the company's own corporate website", that is in response to your initial accusation. What i meant is I do not think it (the source) is inappropriate as the information was taken directly from the main source of truth being the corporate website. There will always be reasons to doubt a source (and I am NOT suggesting Uniqlo's own website is flawed), there will always be people that doubt the authenticity of a source, just like in a court of law, there will never be no doubt in certain things that are presented but as long as it is within a reasonable doubt, we must take it as it is. Thank you.

I'm disinclined to regard any subject's website as being necessarily a source of truth about that subject, because of the obvious conflict of interest. Anyhow, thanks for explaining your view. Please WP:PING me if you reply. Thanks! zazpot (talk) 03:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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Nomination of Killing of Patrick Harman for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Killing of Patrick Harman is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Killing of Patrick Harman until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 02:00, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

October 2017

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 21:36, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

El cid, el campeador, I specifically followed WP:APPNOTE... Zazpot (talk) 23:02, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
By notifying biased editors and a group partial to your POV? That is canvassing and isn't the idea behind AfDs. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 23:25, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
El cid, el campeador, by notifying, as per WP:APPNOTE, "Editors who have made substantial edits to the topic". Anyway, I have no plans to notify anybody else; and if that changes, I will keep your objection and your interpretation of WP:CANVASS in mind. Hopefully, this will be satisfactory all round. Thanks, Zazpot (talk) 23:30, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. I try not to get personally involved in my edits, and I am fine with the article being kept. I only acted this way because I believed you were trying to stack votes and circumvent the system. If you were not doing that, and were acting in good faith, I believe you and I hope this doesn't cause any issues between us. If you would like, I can remove the warning from your page, or you can of course do so yourself. Cheers ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ 02:46, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

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October 2017, Leonard Adleman edit.

Hi, This is Bloger.

Thanks for writing. Where would I put such a reference? It’s not in the article itself, just in the Categories.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bloger (talkcontribs) 22:27, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Bloger: broadly, no unverifiable claim should be made in an article (especially a biography of a living or recently-deceased person). Adding the category, as you did, amounted to making a claim.
I understand that we do not footnote category templates. But if the claim is verifiable and pertinent to the article, it should be made (and footnoted appropriately) in the body of the article. If that is done first, then there would be nothing controversial about afterwards duplicating that claim by adding a category template to the article. Hope this helps, Zazpot (talk) 21:53, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Got it, thanks.
Bloger (talk) 22:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017

Editorial: Annotations

Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?

1495 print version of the Digesta of Justinian, with the annotations of the glossator Accursius from the 13th century

ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.

As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.

Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.

An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:46, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
"Their" is never properly used as a singular possessive pronoun. Just because people often wrongly use "they" or "their" when referring to an individual person does not make that use correct, and does not expand the proper use of either "they" or "their" to include use as a singular pronoun. The very purpose of Wikipedia is education of people on a variety of subjects; that purpose is defeated by using improper grammar as much as it is defeated by any other wrong information in a Wikipedia article. JohnTopShelf (talk) 22:50, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the barnstar.
You are welcome to your opinion about the singular "they". I do not share it, and I know enough scholars of linguistics or English who agree with me about this, that I have no great misgivings about it.
Wikipedia is functioning perfectly in this instance. What would be an appropriate, light-hearted quip to illustrate this? "Physician, heal thyself"? Ah, no, I think would be this: You can lead a person to an encyclopedia, but you cannot make them think ;)
Regards, Zazpot (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you, and kind regards, --Gnom (talk) 12:02, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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