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NASA Astronaut Group 2, also known as the "Next Nine" and the "New Nine", was the second group of astronauts selected by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). Chosen in 1962 to augment the Mercury Seven, these astronauts were meant to fly the two-man Gemini spacecraft and three-man Apollo spacecraft then under development. The nine astronauts were Neil Armstrong, Frank Borman, Pete Conrad, Jim Lovell, James McDivitt, Elliot See, Tom Stafford, Ed White and John Young. Six of the nine flew to the Moon (Lovell and Young twice), and Armstrong, Conrad and Young walked on it as well. Seven of the nine were awarded the Congressional Space Medal of Honor.
- Contributor(s): Hawkeye7, Kees08, Balon Greyjoy
After the Mercury Seven comes the Next Nine. Six of them were awarded the NASA Medal of Honor, five travelled to the Moon (two of the twice!) and three walked on it, including Neil Armstrong, the first man to do so. --Hawkeye7 (discuss) 08:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
CommentsSupport: There's precedent for titling a GT/FT differently than the main article, but that's when the scope of the topic isn't quite the same as the subject of the lead article, and it looks to me like here they're the same. "Next Nine" is certainly catchier than "NASA Astronaut Group 2", but, since the article's title presumably reflects the community's judgment about the primary title associated with this subject, maybe the GT should reflect that fact? I've added a summary paragraph to the proposal, as the rules now require; others should feel free to edit and improve my draft! The articles all seem to be at quality, and they're linked by a navbox, though not exactly by any clear category; probably one should be created, along the lines of Category:Mercury Seven. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 13:08, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- My concerns have been addressed; changing to support. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:18, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support on article quality but I do share the concerns about the topic title; "Next Nine" is catchy and does automatically denote the idea of a series of entries, but I'm not sure that it should take precedence over the article's title. Other than that this is tremendous work, clear in scope and complete. đ Ęá´á´á´Ęá´ ę 14:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
- It was never my intention to rename the article; it was just my own working title for the topic. I'm perfectly happy with for the topic to be named NASA Astronaut Group 2. I have created a Category:NASA Astronaut Group 2 along the lines of the Mercury Seven's one; there is a corresponding category on Commons. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Support. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support - all looks good to me! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:08, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support
Commentsmerge the first para with the second one in the Neil Armstrong article since five paras is too much per WP:LEAD, but then place parts from the second para into the third to avoid the former becoming overly long. Merge the fifth para with the fourth for Pete Conrad per above and remove the refs from the infobox because those awards are already sourced in the body, also IMDb should be removed from references in this article and Jim Lovell per WP:RSP. You have accidentally added an extra t to Elliot See's name in the navbox and that definitely needs to be fixed, whereas the article's first para should be merged with the second one and the media section is too short, so should join legacy and add the necessary source(s) for the miniseries and film. Also, Ed White should be piped to Ed White (astronaut) and I think you should merge the media section with another one, maybe organizations and combine the titles because neither is long enough? Outside of these issues,very hard work on these impressive articles and the introduction itself makes for an intriguing read! Note even though the third Neil Armstrong para looks too beefy to me and the first appears too small, these are stylistic preferences so I can't oppose based on them. --K. Peake 08:23, 6 November 2021 (UTC)- Too awkward to merge Neil Armstrong as proposed; merged paragraphs three and four as they are both about his astronaut career, bring the paragraph count down to four. Merged Pete Conrad lead as suggested. Replaced IMDB link in Jim Lovell. Correct typo in Elliot See's name. Changed piping of Ed White. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Sorry but I am going to have to remove my support since the Pete Conrad article still uses IMDb references... remove or replace these now. --K. Peake 08:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)- IMDB references have been removed from Pete Conrad. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- This topic is more than satisfactory now, changed to a proper support! --K. Peake 14:27, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- IMDB references have been removed from Pete Conrad. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:08, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
- Too awkward to merge Neil Armstrong as proposed; merged paragraphs three and four as they are both about his astronaut career, bring the paragraph count down to four. Merged Pete Conrad lead as suggested. Replaced IMDB link in Jim Lovell. Correct typo in Elliot See's name. Changed piping of Ed White. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Hawkeye7, before I promote this I just wanted to confirm, whats the topic title we're going with here? Best â Aza24 (talk) 22:44, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- I think we said it would be NASA Astronaut Group 2. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:17, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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is exactly what you want the topic name to be, is short, and is unformatted.â Aza24 (talk) 21:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC) Â Done. Promotion completed successfully. Don't forget to add {{Wikipedia:Featured topics/Next Nine}} to the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Good topics. NovemBot (talk) 14:40, 29 December 2021 (UTC)