Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak/archive2
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 00:04, 10 January 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): CrazyC83
- previous FAC (01:50, 7 May 2008)
I have decided to re-nominate the article after a peer review process that has just concluded. It passed GA review back in March. CrazyC83 (talk) 01:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, based on spot-check of sources from this version:
- fn 4-- page not found
- fn 16-- page not found
- fn 17-- the two sentences of text cited by this footnote are taken verbatim from the cited source, aside from minor punctuation changes, omission of one sentence from source, and addition of two words to article. Are there other incidents of copying and pasting of text?
- fn 24-- page not found
- fn 61-- page not found
- fn 95-- goes to current news page of tv station; not applicable
All incidents of copying and pasting should be removed, unless quote marks are used.
Sources need to be rechecked and broken links replaced.
Kablammo (talk) 03:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec)Some comments/oppose
- In the first sentence, is there a way to avoid the redundancy - tornado outbreak was a deadly tornado outbreak? Did the outbreak have any sort of superlative?
- I'd like a better source for the damage toll, which is very difficult to find with the source provided in the Infobox.
- Some voting locations were forced to close early due to the approaching severe weather
- That seems a tad unimportant for the first paragraph of the article. I feel more pressing details should be in the first paragraph, such as more on the actual states affected (and not just which states had primaries that were affected). After all, the article is on a tornado outbreak, not on the election day. It might be useful to specify whether Super Tuesday was on the 5th or 6th.
- Were all of the deaths direct? Also, the lede says At least 57 people were killed, but since it's been almost a year, shouldn't a final total be out by now?
- Sorry to be pedantic, but I'd like a source for - The outbreak is the deadliest in the era of modern NEXRAD doppler radar, which was fully implemented in 1997. As it's in the lede, it should appear somewhere in the article, but I'd be happy at least with a source.
- On February 5 at 7:00 am CST (1300 UTC), the Storm Prediction Center (SPC) issued a high risk of severe storms for most of Arkansas; the first in February since 1998
- Two problems. First, the semicolon creates an incomplete statement. Either rewrite the last portion, or change it to a comma. More pressing is what you're trying to say. Was it the first high risk in February for Arkansas alone, or for anywhere covered by the SPC?
- Somewhere a link for UTC is needed (I don't see one, at least).
- Quick question about this phrase - Some of the most powerful tornado producing supercells - should that be tornado-producing? Or am I reading it wrong?
- Better clarification would be good for - A record of five tornado emergency declarations were issued. I happen to think it's out of place, as watches and warnings were dealt with two paragraphs prior.
- I haven't gotten past the meteorological synopsis, but suffice it to say I think the article needs more work. --♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Inconsistent date formatting in citations, three different styles used:
- ^ Monthly Storm Data - National Weather Service, Memphis. Accessed July 25, 2008.
- ^ NWS Mobile (February 6, 2008). "Super Tuesday Tornado Outbreak". National Weather Service. Retrieved on 2008-04-26.
- ^ CNN (February 6, 2008). "Voters turn out in droves for Super Tuesday", CNN.com. Retrieved on 26 April 2008.
The article uses Month day, year, but the citations have month day, year; day month year; and ISO. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose on criterion 3
- File:Noaa-outbreak-graphic.png - This image is missing a source link, date, and author. Without the source link, we cannot verify the license.
- File:2-5-08CO.gif - This image is missing a source link, date, and author. Without the source link, we cannot verify the license.
- File:MS TN 2008 Tornado track map.png - This image seems to have been altered from the original. Do we know who performed the alterations?
- File:UnionDorm.jpg - The text at this image says "I created this image and give permission for it to be used" and then links to flickr. However, the license at flickr is different than the one chosen by the uploader. Two options here: 1) Enter the information for this image, as if it were from flickr, using the license there; 2) Contact the uploader to establish that s/he is indeed the creator of the image and ask the user to state as such on the image description page ("I" is not sufficient - it needs to be "I, Tms8707056" or something like that).
- File:Damage Macon County.JPG - This needs to link to the html page on which the photo appears. I looked through 30 photos - after that I thought you could perhaps take up the search. Start at photo 31! :)
- File:Snowfall amounts Wisconsin Feb 5-6.gif - The source link does not work for this image.
These should easy issues to resolve and I look forward to striking this oppose soon. Awadewit (talk) 00:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments -
- What makes the following reliable sources?
- Please spell out lesser known abbreviations in the footnotes, such as NOAA.
- The following deadlinked:
- http://www.todaysthv.com/news/tornado_story.aspx?storyid=60145
- http://www.adem.arkansas.gov/documents/Situation%20Reports/2008/Sit%20Sum%20Storms%2002-05-08.htm
- http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0034.html
- http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md0161.html
- http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0048.html
- http://www.tennessean.com/ any from this site
- http://www.jacksonsun.com/ any from this site
- http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/NotFound.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/news/local/story.aspx Any from this site
- Newspaper titles should be in italics. With the {{cite web}} template, you use the "work" field for this, it italicises the paper title properly.
- Agree with Sandy, need to format the retrieval dates consistently.
- Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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