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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 17:27, 18 March 2008.

Effects of Hurricane Ivan in the Lesser Antilles and South America[edit]

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I believe it is close to featured status, and my own biased eyes prevent me from seeing what needs to be fixed. So, that's where you come in. It got a favorable GA review, and a fellow user indicated it was a good article, potentially featured worthy. So, here I am, and, as I say, here goes nothing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source formatting issues resolved, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ah, Hink, something is really off in your citations; did you by chance copy them from another article and get the URLs mixed up? See my edit summaries. It's not possible to mix up the current Venezuelan gov't with its leading newspaper (not even close), and at least one of your URLs doesn't match the title given and seems to be the wrong article. Based on the errors I found, you may need to see what went wrong there. There's also a mixup in author and publisher on cite templates. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • And there's this: The combination of rainfall and winds destroyed 21 houses and blew off the roof of several others, affecting 1,376 people and of which 80 were left homeless. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I went in and added publisher information on top of the author information given. (except for the Spanish language ones, I'm at sea as far as Spanish goes, but they looked to have publisher information) Double check that they are correct Sandy or Hink? Ealdgyth, Talk 21:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further, a couple now look like they were meant to have web sites listed, but they don't? Current refs 5, 6, 8, 23 and 25. (Mea culpa again, Sandy, on the job learning!) Ealdgyth , Talk 21:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Several are from a newspaper archive that is through my university, meaning they can't be cited. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh boy. Sorry, Sandy, I should've looked at it more. Thank you very much for reviewing it, though. OK, I'll go from top to bottom.
    • Regarding the failed verification, that was a simple, stupid little mistake where I put mph instead of miles; the link confirms the mile and km I put in the article.
    • Regarding the usage of {{cite news}}, I thought that it was acceptable to put the publisher as author, but now I'll know not to do that in the future.
    • Regarding mixing up the citations, I'm not so sure. For example, this site says "ElUniversal.com" right toward the top of the page, which is why I thought the newspaper was the author.
      • So, it does; how very strange, especially since it's not eluniversal.com, it's el-universal.com . Here's the original article from El Universal (I suggest using it instead of a Chavez page; I didn't know Chavez was getting his news from ElUniversal, since he's censored them). http://www.el-universal.com/2004/09/09/pol_ava_09A491145.shtml SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • OK, I changed that one link. I see there is still another link to with the rnv.gov.ve in it, but a Google search as well as a search through the ElUniversal.com site indicates there are no replacements. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I double-checked the references, and I fixed the broken link.
    • I'm not sure what is the problem with "The combination of rainfall and winds...". Does that have to be fixed still? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Did you mean to say this? The combination of rainfall and winds destroyed 21 houses and blew off the roof of several others, affecting 1,376 people and of which 80 were left homeless. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. You and me both will learn here... My mistake too for not noticing the errors. Ealdgyth , Talk 00:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I can't find anything wrong with it. Very well written, and wow! I can't believe how much information and how many sources you found! Juliancolton The storm still blows... 01:28, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Very well written and sourced. The article includes a very impressive amount of information given its relatively limited subject matter. I saw two very minor potential issues:
  • At the end of the lead, does this The name Ivan was later retired due to its severe effects. mean that the name was retired because of its effects in the Lesser Antilles and South America? I'm not sure if that's what was meant, but that is the impression I got from reading it. (I could be wrong, and I'm not trying to downplay the hurricane's effect elsewhere, but I was pretty sure the name was retired because of the storm's effects in Florida.) This isn't a big deal, I just wondered.
  • In "Preparations", this sentence: Early in its duration, the National Hurricane Center consistently forecasted Ivan to track further to the north than in actuality. probably needs to be cited.
Chalk up #35 Hink, *ding* and great job. Thingg⊕⊗ 23:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks. I got the first one (simply removed "due to its severe effects"), and the second one isn't a problem. The entire paragraph is cited to the TCR, and that statement does appear there (in the "Forecast and Warning Critique" section). I have the chalk ready for #35, and, rest assured, I have #36 planned :) ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support --Laser brain (talk) 17:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC) Comments: The prose is of the quality I have come to expect from the Tropical Cyclones project and from Hurricanehink in particular. I only found a few minor issues that should be easy to reconcile.[reply]
    • I think unless the name of an island includes the word "island" you would say in rather an on. In Grenada. On Easter Island.
    • "At the time its tropical storm force winds extended..." Comma after "time" for readability.
    • "Early in its duration, the National Hurricane Center consistently forecasted Ivan to track further to the north than in actuality." Suggest rewording.. it reads like you are saying "early in the National Hurricane Center's duration".
    • "the hurricane warnings were dropped to tropical storm warnings..." Is that normal language for storm warnings? Or are the warnings reduced?
    • "All of Grenada was left without power or working water." Probably running water?
    • "An estimated total of 18,000 people..." You can just say "An estimated 18,000 people..."
    • "Several indirect fatalities occurred in the aftermath of the hurricane, primarily including senior citizens." You can eliminate "including".
    • In general, "See also" shouldn't include anything that is already linked in the article. Probably not needed. --Laser brain (talk) 16:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks a lot. I got all of them. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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