Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nikki Grahame/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 05:46, 9 March 2007.

Nikki Grahame

Nominated for quality and speed of article expansion. Dalejenkins 16:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Seems to need a picture of sorts in the infobox. The references should be fixed in proper citation form. The lead is too short. The prose could use some more work. I'm not too sure about the "allegations" in the "personal life" section, however sourced they may be. Honestly, this article should be sent to peer review first...it needs a LOT more work. Shrumster 18:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. While I know that a FA does not have to be about the most important subjects, I don't think that this person is notable enough to be included on Wikipedia in the first place. A few very minor roles and a role in two tv shows, which spurred a tabloid debate about her mental health? That's it? I'm tempted to put a deletion tag on the page, but I won't as long as this page is in the middle of a FA debate (because this could ne perceived as a violation of WP:POINT, which it isn't, but I won't start that discussion). Sijo Ripa 20:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The subject is the central character/figure of a TV series, and was a contestant on a second show. Considering the show is named after her, I think that satisfies the "name recognition" criterion, as does being named "the second Most Annoying Person Of 2006". Besides, the article passed an AfD in November with near unanimous consensus. Caknuck 04:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment ~~References need retrieval dates, name of author, publication, etc. I oppose based on this.~~ This has been addressed, but I still oppose per 1a. LuciferMorgan 11:38, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Object Article needs a lot of work before it'll merit FA status.

The prose is too chatty, for example: "She has since gone on to front her own reality television show..." and "...inspired by her stroppy turn as a PA in a Big Brother task..."
The lead is waaaay too short. Two sentences doesn't cut it for a GA or FA.
Since the article falls under the jurisdiction of two WikiProjects, those groups should review it prior to submitting it as a FAC. At least have someone grade it first. In this case "speed of article expansion" is working against you.

Caknuck 04:44, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've given it a B, as you said that the lead is insufficient for GA. Tra (Talk) 16:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Object per above. Informal and confusing prose ("From February 22, 2007 Grahame is to front a media campaign supporting the launch of Domino's Meateor Pizza.[15] It includes TV, online and direct activity." Huh?). Lead needs expansion. Fails 1b, too. Nothing at all about her life before Big Brother besides: "Grahame had numerous jobs before she became publicly known, including working as a dancer, a promotions girl and a glamour model." Where was she born/raised? What was her childhood like? Did she attend college? Etc. Gzkn 04:00, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.