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Community areas in Chicago

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Nominator(s): – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a list of, in a way, the "neighborhoods" of Chicago; there were originally 75 of them back in the 1920s but now there are 77. I think this is a nice list that explains its contents well enough and with good enough citations (there used to be more stuff about the "sides", but I couldn't find any non-citogenic sources on the matter). This is my first time at FLC, so please go easy. I understand if this is more appropriate at FAC. Thanks! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:12, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This is definitely a list so FLC is the right place for it
    • Thanks!
  • "Nevertheless, the areas don't always" => "Nevertheless, the areas do not always" (contractions should always be avoided)
  • "The areas don't necessarily correspond" - same again
    • Both removed, as well as one in the end.
  • "For example, the "Pilsen" and "Back of the Yards" neighborhoods" - don't see any reason for the quote marks round the names
    • Removed
  • "carried a stigma after the publication of The Jungle" - needs expansion, firstly to make clear that The Jungle is a 1906 novel by Upton Sinclair, and secondly to say why it would cause a stigma
    • Added
  • Is "demographics" the correct word to use in the table caption? To me, that would refer to breaking down the population by gender, ethnicity, etc, which isn't detailed here......
    • Changed to "population and area"
  • Think that's it from me, great work overall! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • No need to just embolden "community areas" in the lead.
    • Removed
  • Given that the lead is only summarising five paragraphs of text, the three paragraphs there seems far too much.
    • Trimmed the lead somewhat, merge the last two paragraphs together into one.
  • We also tend to see things like "biggest"/"smallest", "most"/"least populous" in the lead as that's the equivalent of "summarising the table" in the lead.
    • Added a sentence for that near the end of the new first paragraph.
  • University of Chicago Press could be linked.
    • Done
  • " 1920 and 1930 Censuses" Censuses inside the pipe.
    • I've put it as part of the link
  • " changes[1] due" just move that awkward ref to the end of the sentence.
    • Done
  • "Below is a list of the 77 community areas, along with their population, area, and population density." not necessary with the section heading and the table caption.
    • Removed
  • "Chicago Community areas " no need for capital C in community.
  • "2017 Population" no need to capitalise P.
  • Same for the density column.
    • All three done
  • Total row should fix at bottom and not move when sorted. Use class="sortbottom" on the last row delineator (|-).
    • Done
  • It's a bit messy having all those numbers left-aligned. They would be better split into metric/imperial columns and right aligned.
    • Right aligned the population density column. I don't think it's particularly necessary to split the different measurements into different columns. My apprehensions in that respect were because I didn't know |disp=table was a thing in {{Convert}}. I have since separated the columns. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 23:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "(The[11]) Loop" very awkward ref placement. Better off adding a footnote after Loop.
    • Done
  • Refs which are PDFs should have format=pdf in their coding.
    • Done

The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 13:58, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@TRM: I've addressed your concerns, just let me know if you have any more. Thanks! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 06:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi John, sorry for the delay. The only thing that grates now is that you have different sq mi being converted to the same sq km (e.g. 0.99 and 1.00 sq mi both convert to 2.6 sq km) so I'd consider one more significant figure in those. Also, use the same level of precision throughout for the density so the right alignment is effective. Right now the right hand digit could be hundredths, tenths or units, and that makes the right-alignment nonsensical. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 06:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done. (EDIT: Except for the sq mi. population density, which I'll try to see how to do. There we go.) – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 06:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to be a grind, but now it's obvious I should have said the overall population per community column should be right-aligned as well... The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 06:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's probably a much better way to do it, but done. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 07:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

  • Encyclopedia of Chicago links need access dates
  • Everything else checks out

--Guerillero | Parlez Moi 15:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:02, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 03:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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