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Laureus World Sports Award for Breakthrough of the Year[edit]

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Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 13:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The last one in the series! I'll do the speech later, but many thanks to everone who's helped with the project so far. I know there are two other Larueus lists at FLC now, but both have four supports and have gone throw the rigorous review of those I trust to leave no stone unturned, so I'm happy to run this review concurrently. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:53, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from BeatlesLedTV
  • "Ref(s)" → "Refs"
  • Link Sports Illustrated in ref 8
  • Link ESPN in ref 42
  • Do you have a ref to back up this specific award's previous name or is it mentioned in ref 1?

That's all I got. Huge congrats on bringing the whole series to featured status! If you nominate the Laureas Awards for featured topic I'll definitely offer my support. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 21:29, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All done BeatlesLedTV. Thanks for your help and reviews. Once the remaining three lists are promoted, hopefully, there'll certainly be an WP:FTC nomination! Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – All good for me. Again huge congrats to you, great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 02:09, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Ianblair23 (talk) 00:10, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
:Hi TRM, please find my comments below:
  • Lead
  • As of 2017 add comma
  • British sportspeople have won more awards than any other nationality Should mention that Brits have won 4 followed by Spaniards with 3
  • Table
  • Winners by sport table
  • Change soccer to football as per above
  • Link all the sports to be consistent with the other lists
  • As per the Zou Kai mistake listed above, the number of nominations for athletics drops to 13 and gymnastics increases to 2.
  • References
Also, if you get a chance could you please review my latest FLC, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of centuries in women's One Day International cricket/archive1. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ianblair23, thanks Ian, as ever. I think I got all your comments sorted, please let me know if there's anything more I can do. I'll certainly review your list, if not tonight then tomorrow. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 20:38, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Fantastic job on this series TRM. Bring on the featured topic nomination! Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 00:14, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from MWright96 (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments by MWright96
  • "prior to 2007, this award was named Laureus World Sports Award for Newcomer of the Year" - perhaps you could reword this piece of text so it reads known as Laureus World Sports Award for Newcomer of the Year prior to 2007
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • "was the Spanish golfer Sergio García." & "German Formula One driver Nico Rosberg." - again some consistency is would be nice when refering to the an individual with or without "the".
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moto GP should be worded as "MotoGP"; this is the common way to spell the sport per its official website and countless media articles
    Gah, I was trying to follow the official website but they use "motorcycling", "Moto GP" and "motor cycling", so I've gone for "MotoGP" per your recommendation. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The link in the eighth reference is broken and will require attention
    Ref 8 (BBC "Schumacher wins sporting 'Oscar'") works fine for me, did you mean a different ref? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Doh! Should have typed that the reference that is dead is the Sports Illustrated source from 1999 (Ref 9). MWright96 (talk) 21:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • As in the other instances Ref 11 is used, it needs the author and news agency filled in
    Hmm, I have a feeling the refs have changed since you reviewed it, could you specify the text in the ref for this one, the previous comment, and the next comment? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 43 is missing the news agency
    See above? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's all that I found from my end. Nothing too major was found during my read-through. MWright96 (talk) 13:30, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MWright96 as always, my thanks. I have some queries over which refs you found fault with, could you clarify if possible please? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
MWright96 got the first two, the "ref 43" one, could you expand? Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:29, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man Certainly, Reference 43 ("Novak Djokovic wins Laureus for sportsman of the year". ESPN. 15 April 2015) is missing the agency which is Associated Press. MWright96 (talk) 21:37, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
MWright96 I think I got 'em all?!! Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Yes, everything is now sorted. Can now lend my support as always. Nice work as usual! MWright96 (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Support Comments by JennyOz

Infobox

  • awarded for: Laureus has updated. Should be (or part of):
Awarded to the sportsperson or team whose performance as a newcomer suggests the greatest potential for an outstanding career or to an established sportsman or sportswoman who produces a significant step-up in class to a considerably higher level of sporting achievement.

Prose

  • "...although seven teams have been nominated..." - should be eight, is missing Switzerland Davis Cup team 2015
    Oops, done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I swapped the "seven" to eight. JennyOz (talk) 05:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 9 (Shipnuck sports illustrated) supporting Garcia v Tiger does not work for me. This does.
    Odd one this, the link was noted above as being dead so I changed it. I wonder if your viewed a cached or old version of the list? I replaced it and tried the link I replaced it with both at work this morning and at home this evening, seems fine to me, could you confirm? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that fix happened after I'd started my notes, sorry. I'm not sure how Sports Illustrated/Golf works. Shipnuck originally wrote that piece in 1999 (per SI url above, with a longer title, and per new Golf cite intro) but I'm only confused, not fussed. Verifiability works either way! JennyOz (talk) 05:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Main table

All pics, names, nationalities and sports good.

Poss better pipes - really helpful to readers

  • 2003 Jochem Uytdehaage - Long track speed skating
  • 2005 Liu Xiang - Hurdling
  • 2005 Xing Huina - she's both middle and long-distance but could pipe to Track and field
  • 2007 Xavier Carter - Sprint (running)
  • 2008 Tyson gay - Sprint (running)
  • 2008 Pistorius - Sprint (running)
  • 2010 Cavendish - road and track but his achievements in 2009 were on road, so Road bicycle racing?
  • 2011 Lemaitre - Sprint (running)
  • 2011 Tamgho - Triple jump
  • 2012 Pisorius - Sprint (running)
  • 2012 Farah - Long-distance running
  • 2012 Blake - Sprint (running)
  • 2013 James - Sprint (running)
  • 2014 Holzdeppe - Pole vault
  • 2017 Ayana - Long-distance running
  • 2017 van Niekerk - Sprint (running)

Other

  • 2017 Leicester City - you used the F.C. in other Laureus list
    Added F.C. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I added it in table at 2017 as well. Okay? JennyOz (talk) 05:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • National teams - I notice you added a "men's" to the Ghana national football team at 2007, and to Fiji sevens and Iceland football teams at 2017. Fully agree with this as their countries also have national women's teams. Was it intentional to not do same for Afghanistan national cricket team (2014) and Chile football (2016)?
    No intention actually, I've clarified (I think) the men's teams where applicable. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Interesting re Pistorios - his 2007 nom for breakthrough in para sprints but his second 'breakthrough' (2012 nom) was for breaking into non-disabled events in 2011. So he was nominated in both Breakthrough and Sportsperson with a Disability (won) in 2012. Nothing to change on this list, just mentioning:) Fascinating fellow.)

Fascinating, tragic, ..... The Rambling Man (talk) 21:00, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics

Winners by nationality:

Winners - all good

Nominations -

Winners by sport:

Winners - all good

Nominations - all good

Refs

  • Ref 30 2009 noms - Anthony Kim, usa golf, is not on Laureus noms page. Appears to be a Laureus website error? He is sort of mentioned here. Found it also here. Swap ref to the AIPS if it's RS?
    Added a reference from Dawn. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 36 Laureus labels McIlroy UK - matters only in Stats / Winners by nationality table?
    Meh, the GBR vs UK debate can rage on for millennia. He would be a GBR competitor in sporting terms. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 43 ESPN date 15 April 2015 should be 16 April
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template - matches list

That's it. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 05:43, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

JennyOz I think I've got to every one of your points, please don't hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks so much, as ever, for you generosity in your time to review this list (and all the others), nearly there!! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:50, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
G'day TRM I've made 2 tiny changes to the List page itself and added 3 tiny follow-up comments above. Everything now fine so I am very pleased to now sign for my support! Great job! JennyOz (talk) 05:15, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting (a bit early, but I'm going to hit all 3 of yours in one go instead of waiting the full 10 days for this.) --PresN 17:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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