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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 21:45, 14 April 2009 [1].

List of United States Military Academy alumni (non-graduates)[edit]

Nominator(s): — Rlevse • Talk •
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Second in long series of lists on the US Military Academy alumni. Relax guys, it'll be awhile before I submit the next one ;-) The "hat toss" photo is an exception here as I did not include it. It did not seem right to put a graduation photo in a list of non grads. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:21, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
*Quick comments
    • Lead image can be bigger if resolution supports it.
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • en dash, not hyphen for all your year ranges.
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • What use is "ex" in the Class year col if you have an explanation before the table as to what their "graduation" year means?
Done, left over from main list when mixed with grads — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • "dropped out after 2 years" - two years, numbers below 10 in words.
Done and found another — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Bencherlite
;Comments from Bencherlite

Minor points, really. You might like to think about the following (remembering that the tendency in sortable FLs is to relink on multiple occasions rather than just once):

  • Barrow - can you link "US Senator from Louisiana" to one or more articles?
  • Barrow - either "from 1816 to 1818" or "1816–1818", but the two shouldn't be mixed; suggest "(1816–1818)" as that's the style used below
  • Fannin - anything to link re Texas War for Independence?
  • Fannin - "due to academics": not sure what this means
    • Sorry, my fault, meant "Zeilin"
        • chg'd to "poor grades" — Rlevse • Talk • 09:56, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Campbell - suggest linking to Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, rather than the court itself
  • Armistead - link for Confederate?
  • Green / Houston - same point re links
  • Gilchrist - Governor of Florida?
  • Gilchrist - typo in "philopsophy"
  • Hodges - "plebe"? Not sure what this means
  • Yarborough - links?
  • Leary - just noting my appreciation for the witty summary!
  • Daly / Donlon / Gardner - Medal of Honor?
  • Daly has a refnote (b) that leads nowhere
  • Hatch / Vinateiri - do we need "(NFL)" when the abbreviation isn't used again?
  • Refs generally - link publishers if you can e.g. New York Times (ref 3), Univeristy (tyop) of Louisiana (ref 24)
  • Refs generally - do whatever you did for the astronauts list re consistency of spelling-out USMA in full (or not) / including "USMA" in refs 4 & 5
  • Ref 4 - missing a "?"
  • Refs 6, 8, 12, 14 (in page range), 16, 24, 26, 28 need n-dashes
  • Ref 15 - change "pages" to "page" as you've got "pp." not "p."
  • Ref 27 / 30 - I think there should be a space in between the initials i.e. "J.R." should be "J. R."
  • Ref 33 has a stray "-" in "Profile"
Nope, go look at the ref, written that way on purpose, it's a pun. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boring nitpicking, but only because I can't find anything of substance! Nice work. BencherliteTalk 12:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • ALL DONE, but see question below. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Before on linking publishers in refs I was told to link all or not all, just be consistent, and I am. I haven't been linking them. If we do link them, do we link only first occurrence of pub ZYX or all occurences of ZYX? — Rlevse • Talk • 21:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Be consistent in that too, either link all pubs all the time or link all pubs the first time only. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm going to unlink them all to stay consistent with the other lists in the series. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:21, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • That's fine by me; I only said to link them where you could because the list had some linked already. BencherliteTalk 07:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can just tweak the Zeilin phrase "discharged due to academics" which I'm afraid I don't understand (it might be a US / British English divide), then I'll support. BencherliteTalk 07:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, issues resolved, and excellent work. BencherliteTalk 11:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 00:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Prior the"-->Before the
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 00:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "have entered all walks of life. " Too flowery for me, perhaps "have entered a variety of fields".
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 00:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Among them are"-->Notable non-graduates include
Done — Rlevse • Talk • 00:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I know of. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Leary-DEA.jpg – We have no proof that the image was actually uploaded by a DEA employee.
I see no difference in that and me uploading a file and claiming I took it. It's on an official DEA/DOJ site and that is enough. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dabomb87 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

  • Be sure to catch my reply above about linking publishers.
See above, unlinked to stay consistent in the series. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's accurate, but I chg'd to a College Hall of Fame site — Rlevse • Talk • 00:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's accurate. WHy is it that when two refs are accurate one is better than another? Chg'd to a ESPN ref.
Accuracy doesn't guarantee reliability, it is the reputation for and methods of fact checking that make a certain ref reliable. Also, the information being sourced matter; some of the notes and such are for living people. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If it's accurate, it's reliable. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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