Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of current UFC fighters/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by The Rambling Man 18:27, 24 November 2010 [1].

List of current UFC fighters

Featured list candidates/List of current UFC fighters/archive1

Nominator(s): Thaddeus Venture (talk) 20:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it provides clear, concise and well researched information. It is well maintained and well organized and properly cited. Thaddeus Venture (talk) 20:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Both the lead and list are severely under-referenced. How can I verify any of the fighters' records, or that they are fighters for that matter?
All of the references that are included are not properly formatted. See Wikipedia:Citing sources.
Starting the lead "This is a list... " is deprecated. See other current featured lists for professional ways to introduce the list.
The lead in general does not provide a good introduction to what UFC is.
Pictures of a few fighters would be useful.

Needs significant work, suggest putting it through a peer review and returning to FLC once these issues have been addressed. Regards, Jujutacular ^talk 23:01, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Little to no references and what references are on the article don't use the appropriate {{Cite web}} template. Also there is a ton of unreferenced content within the list. Afro (Talk) 09:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The ten-cent tour: Sorting on the name is broken; I'm thinking countries should probably be split out into their own column (newer FLs tend to do this, it seems); you can sort nicknames without having to resort to the unkindly ", The"; zero general references; the specific references that exist seem random; there's not even a reference stating that these weight classes are official divisions; the infobox is superfluous, and the information in it should be moved to a table in the article I think; the article needs at least some kind of pictures, preferably photos of the top men in each class; and the list at the very least needs something saying what date the records are valid as of. All in all, oppose.

Oppose and I'll close this soon if User:Dabomb87 doesn't do it before me. This is not peer review, but a few pointers (which may overlap the above, but which should help should you renominate in the future):

Image (File:UFC logo.svg) has no fair use rationale for use in this list.
Infobox is not useful, and contravenes WP:MOSFLAG.
Lead needs expansion and shouldn't start as it does.
Images of fighters would be good.
Don't use abbreviations (like UFC) until you've explained them.
What is "Zuffa"?
You say all fight records are shown the same way. They're not.
Fight records need en-dash, not spaced hyphens (per WP:DASH)
I would introduce each section with some prose on how many fighters and how heavy they are, rather than put that information into the headings.
"Current" is a bit worrying too, you probably need to say when the last update was so we can judge for ourselves quite how "current" the list is.
Avoid disambiguation links (like Michael MacDonald).
You force the sorting on nickname to avoid sorting by "The" (for example) but the fighters' names are sorted by first name. Use {{sortname}}.
What does (C) mean?
References need complete formatting using {{cite web}} or similar.

I hope you don't take these critiques badly, we would very much welcome the nomination back if you pay heed to the advice. If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to ask me. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: "list of current fighters" can change so rapidly that there's little chance of this ever meeting the criterion for stability. This should be closed. — KV5 • Talk • 17:58, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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