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The list was promoted by Giants2008 17:12, 9 October 2012 [1].

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Richard Hadlee[edit]

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Richard Hadlee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Zia Khan 23:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe this is a list with inclusion FL criteria, on a notable topic about a notable individual. Actually about one of the best bowlers in the history of cricket, and one of the greatest all-rounders the game had seen. It'll be an attribute to a Cricket Legend to take this to a FL status. Comments or suggestions are appreciated. Zia Khan 23:10, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


  • Ref. No. 4 does not have an access date.
  • Check the publisher name in ref. no. 14. It is written twice.
  • Had number of dab links last time I checked. So make sure you have none of that.
  • Economy rate column does not sort properly.
    • All fixed! Thanks for your review and help. Zia Khan 05:25, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

--Vyom25 (talk) 05:13, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 12:46, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments'
  • "Hadlee was named by the Wisden..."
  • "inducted him into the ICC Cricket Hall of Fame.[9][10][11] don't need three references for this
  • "His first Test five-wicket haul came in 1976 against India in a match at the same venue which New Zealand won." comma after 1976 and venue
  • "By the end of his career, he had claimed five-wickets hauls in both innings of a match on five occasions.[14][15][16][17][18] again really don't need refs for one sentence
Sorry this is my fault, I meant to say don't need five refs for one sentence, not remove them altogether. Sentence does need referencing just excessively. Sorry about that, I really should read what I typed before I confirm it. NapHit (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Reinserted, I couldn't find a specific one for this. Zia Khan 04:08, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hadlee's first ODI five-wicket haul came in 1980 against India in a match at the WACA Ground, Perth which New Zealand lost." comma after india and Perth
  • "only behind"
  • Key should be in same order as table, so Econ should be before Batsmen
  • Wkts column, the entries should not be bold per MOS:BOLD, add plainrowheaders in between wikitable sortable to fix this

NapHit (talk) 22:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed all! Thanks for the comments. Zia Khan 04:28, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comment

  • The links to list of fifers at the "External links" appears to be dead/incorrect. —Vensatry (Ping me) 06:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 14:16, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments very good.
  • Image caption should be descriptive, perhaps you could tell readers it's a statue of Sir Richard Hadlee and tell us where it is.
    • Done.
  • "against Australia, with fourteen five-wicket hauls against " repetitive "against"...
    • Done.
  • Sorry but the tail end of the second para reads like a list of factoids, I think the flow of the prose should be improved.
    • Made some changes.
  • In the key, some "meaning"s start with The, others don't.
    • Fixed.
  • I thought strike rate was normally included in ODI tables?
    • I think this is not necessary in a bowling list.
  • Ref 8. NO NEED TO SHOUT!

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • "Hadlee was the first bowler to reach 400 wickets in the format." Which format is this?
    • Done.
  • "he had claimed five-wickets hauls...". "wickets" → "wicket"? Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 23:48, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Add scope rows to those tables for WP:ACCESS; it already has scope cols
    • Fixed.
  • Why is Wkts in #1 aligned to center, and others there aren't
    • Done.
  • "Consider removing links that add little to the article or that have been repeated in close proximity to other links to the same article, as per MOS:LINKS and WP:CONTEXT"
    • I think the links are according to the requirements. Zia Khan 23:27, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TBrandley 23:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:18, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • It seems to odd that first we are telling that he took this much fifers, and then we are telling that what fifers actually means.
    • Nothing wrong with this, I think.
      • I disagree. :( It really feels odd, really.
  • "reach 400 wickets" >> "take 400 wickets"
    • Done.
  • A bowler's success against a team is determined by the no. of wickets he has taken, and not by the fifer. Therefore, "Hadlee was most successful against Australia" >> "Hadlee took more wickets against Australia than any other team"
This list is not dealing with the amount of wickets he took, but five wicket hauls. As this is the subject of the list, it is correct as it stands. NapHit (talk) 18:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
5 wicket haul might be the subject of the list, but this sentence's subject is Hadlee, and as a bowler, his success against a specific team cannot be determined by his fifers. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Of course his success against a team can be determined by five-wicket hauls, what is this list doing if not that? NapHit (talk) 11:12, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "career-best figures for an innings" >> "best bowling figures in an innings"
    • Done.
  • "As of 2012" - 2012 is very big, say it clearly, "As of October 2012"
    • Done.
  • "Result for the New Zealand team in that match" >> "Result for New Zealand in that match"
    • Done.
  • "One of two five-wicket hauls by Hadlee in a match" >> "One of two five-wicket hauls by Hadlee in that match"
    • He took two five-wicket hauls in a match on five occasions, so this should be as this is.
  • Don't you think that the row scope should be actually given to the date row?
    • No, As NapHit says we are talking about five-wicket hauls, and this is the best option.
  • The alt can be better, you could tell that the statue is o brown colour, mustaches, wearing shirt, bla bla bla...
    • I think this is sufficient for our readers. Zia Khan 19:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 17:02, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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