Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of tallest buildings in Shanghai

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The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:03, 20 August 2008 [1].

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List of tallest buildings in Shanghai

Self-nomination. Another tallest building list, modelled after FLs such as List of tallest buildings in Seattle. I have been working on and off to bring this list up to FL standards, and I think it has (finally) been achieved. I believe it meets all FL criteria, in that it is comprehensive, stable, well-referenced, well-organized, useful, and complete. It uses metric first due to the city's non-US location. Any comments or suggested improvements will be appreciated. Many thanks --Joowwww (talk) 10:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• Comments
  • I'm not blown away by the opening sentence "This list of tallest buildings in Shanghai ranks skyscrapers in Shanghai, China by height." - "This is {name of the list} which ranks {name of the list the other way round}" - It may have been the case that this was okay, but I'd just like to see something more imaginative like "There are over x skyscrapers in Shanghai, China, which..." or similar. Just my opinion but there you have it!
  • "...become the tallest building in Shanghai when completed" well presumably the tallest in China?  Done (changed) --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • "that stand at least 170 m (560 ft) tall," - is this an arbitrary choice? Not a big deal for me but I've seen all sorts of different criteria applied here.
  • Notes are, generally speaking, sentence fragments so they shouldn't have full stops.  Done --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • If lists contain two or more tables in a row with exactly the same columns I'd prefer to see them with the same widths.
  • I'd prefer not to see blank cells (e.g. the rank for the Oriental Pearl Tower - an em-dash or something would be better so people understand that you didn't just forget to put something in there...)  Done --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Years as tallest col should use en-dash, not hyphen to separate years, per WP:DASH.  Done --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Ref 2 looks a little unreferenced! "The Burj Dubai, although not listed, is taller than the Taipei 101." should be cited to be honest.  Done --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • The general reference, what's the point of it since you use Emporis for all your specific refs?  Done (removed) --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Instead of Category:Shanghai, why not Category:Buildings and structures in Shanghai or even Category:Skyscrapers in Shanghai?  Done --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
• The Rambling Man (talk) 16:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, a few responses: As for the opening sentence, it's the same opening sentence as all other FLs I've checked. I can change it if you feel it's necessary but I'm hesitant to break from convention. 170 m is the cut-off point for both the list and the navbox template, each FL seems to have its own cut-off depending on the city's amount of skyscrapers. As for the list width: I'm not sure how to make the tables the same width as the completed buildings one (which has a gallery at the side keeping it to a certain width), so if anyone knows how to do that it would be appreciated. Although other FLs also have different sized tables. --Joowwww (talk) 18:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Breaking from convention is good. And don't worry, as an FL director I wouldn't encourage you to do something that would end with the FLC failing. The old "other FL's have this..." thing needs to be eradicated. We want to progress and improve the FLs. As for table widths, check out other FLs which do this. If you get really stuck, give me a shout. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

OK I've made a few changes and had a go at standardising table widths. Convention has been broken :-) --Joowwww (talk) 19:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Coolio. I'll go see! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment, the under construction section does not list all of the projects under construction. See this. The SkyscraperPage link at the bottom doesn't work. Cheers. _{Trance addict - Armin van Buuren - Oceanlab} 22:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done, thanks --Joowwww (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

• Support - as an experienced users with WP:SKY and who has contributed to Skyscraper FL's, I see no flaws, which have been taken care of, as of right now and meets the FL Criteria. Great work by all editors and this list exemplifies Wikipedia's best.S_RX 23:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Support. Well referenced too! Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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