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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 07:15, 25 September 2008 [1].

Pink Floyd discography[edit]

If this becomes a FL i'm goin to start work on The Who, Bryan Adams, Led Zeppelin, Queen, The Animals, Bryan Adams, Bruce Springsteen, The Pretenders and many more discography. If any one wants to help me with this, just contact me. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 13:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

previous FLC (23:06, 26 May 2008)

Comments - please check the basics before coming here..

  • Caption is fragment, remove the full stop. Done
  • "This page lists Pink Floyd albums and singles." - no it doesn't. Delete. Done
  • " twenty-six singles" - 35 according the infobox. Done
  • "fifteen music videos, and six video album" - 11 and 7 according to the infobox... Done
  • All of last para of lead is uncited. Done
  • "Although they were unsuccessfully sued by Waters for rights to the name, they again enjoyed..." - that's not a logical run-on clause. Suggest a decent copyedit. Done
  • "Eventually they reached a settlement out of court with Waters allowing them use of the name." - what does this have to do with the discog? Done
  • ""—" denotes releases that did not chart." - once again, prove they were released please. Done
  • You should discuss the fact they released Ummagumma as both a live and a studio album in the lead. Done
  • 10 compilations in the list, 7 in the infobox... Done
  • Release dates do not need to be wikilinked per the recent WP:MOS deprecation of linking. Done
  • Ref 18 not specific and quite why I should specify QOTSA I know not. Done
  • Ref 39 looks like a wiki - what makes it reliable? Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the work BBHS is doing on this article. But I notice he has been making a dozen edits to it per day, for quite some time, changing things around in tiny steps. I wish he would use a personal sandbox to prepare his changes, and move them all at once when they are ready. His edits could also use edit summaries. More to the point of the featured list request, it looks like his work is not done, as he is still making significant changes daily, and I would have liked to see the changes reach a state of completion before announcing the candidacy. How can we be expected to assess the article while it is still being developed, and is continually changing? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 02:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments
    • One of rock music's most successful acts, the group have sold over 200 million albums worldwide[1][2] including 74.5 million albums in the United States alone.[3] - have --> has, comma after worldwide Done
    • Im not sure whether using ref 35 is okay, due to it being a video, are there no other sources verifying the director? at the bottom of the page it sais alan parker directed the video Done
    • Other than that, looks okay in my eyes.--SRX 22:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The lead is largely a carbon-copy of Pink Floyd. So many books on the Floyd have been written, is there any particular reason why they haven't been consulted? Considering that the band formed over thirty years ago, I doubt newer online sources would be as accurate as books. indopug (talk) 12:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps only the first paragraph is needed? --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 13:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - Finally, a classic rock discography is nominated! My comments are mostly trivial, but I think they're important:

  • Perhaps Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall Live 1980–81's capitalization should be changed to Is There Anybody out There? The Wall Live 1980–81 to comply with WP:MUSTARD and WP:CAPS (prepositions under five letters shouldn't be capitalized).
  • Also, should it be Pink Floyd The Wall (film), Pink Floyd The Wall, Pink Floyd: The Wall or Pink Floyd's The Wall? Should we include "Pink Floyd" in the link from the discography or should we use a piped link to only show "The Wall"?didn't get that one
    Note to BBHS: For The Wall (film), I'm talking about the piped link. Right now it links to Pink Floyd The Wall (film), but on the actual page you only see The Wall (because the link is written as [[Pink Floyd The Wall (film)|The Wall]]. I'm asking if the link should display the full name of the film in the piped link (since the movie's name appears to be Pink Floyd The Wall and not just The Wall). Another slightly unrelated topic is whether the movie's actual name is Pink Floyd The Wall, Pink Floyd: The Wall, or Pink Floyd's The Wall. Xnux the Echidna 20:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Cover sais Pink Floyd The Wall  Done--Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is "Have a Cigar" really by "Pink Floyd featuring Roy Harper" or is Roy Harper merely a session musician? If so, there's no need to put (featuring Roy Harper) next to "Have a Cigar".The dud sang lead vocals Done
    I realize that. The question is if the song is attributed to Pink Floyd featuring Roy Harper or just Pink Floyd with Roy Harper being mentioned in the production credits only. Xnux the Echidna 00:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should we include "DVD" in the piped link for Pulse (1995 film)? Done

Xnux the Echidna 15:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Out There" capitalization is correct, it is a 2-word phrase, see WP:MUSTARD capitalization #3 examples. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 18:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not. That only applies to verbs, and neither "out" nor "there" is a verb. "Out" is a full-fledged preposition in this example. For example, suppose the title was Is There Anybody in There? You wouldn't capitalize "in" in this example either. Xnux the Echidna 18:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I stand corrected. (However, in speaking the title out loud, I would tend to put some emphasis on the word "out", so it doesn't seem right for it to be lower case. But I agree the MOS says nothing about this.) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 19:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment You're using the Pink Floyd wikia as a source. Using wikis is a big no no in featured content. Done -- Scorpion0422 05:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Why is WP:BOLDTITLE ignored. And why is The Dark Side of the Moon is the third best-selling studio album in the world (not counting compilations and various artists soundtracks). not sourced? Done and none of my FL has ever used a Boldtitle so i don't think it's needed. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jennavecia (Talk) 03:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose
    • "as they evolved" - what do you mean?
    • " London underground music scene " potential very confusing with London Underground.what do you mean?
    • "After Barrett's departure, the band released Ummagumma the album was released as a doubel disc, the first disc was contained songs performed live the other disc contained the new studio recorded songs. singer and bass player Roger Waters gradually became the dominant and driving force in the mid-1970s," - I can't begin to tell you how much is wrong here...but I'll try...
      • "...Ummagumma the album..." needs a full stop or some other punctuation here.
      • "doubel" spelling please. Done
      • "doubel disc, the first disc contained songs performed live the other..." punctuation again. Done
      • "...songs. singer and ..." - Singer (capital S please)
      • "gradually became the dominant and driving force" - what context? What do you mean?
    • "[[List of best-selling albums worldwide|third best-selling studio album in the world] (not counting compilations and various artists soundtracks" - missing a ] and various artists should be linked.
    • "Waters sued the remaining members for the rights to the name, Waters lost and the band enjoyed worldwide success " - Waters...Waters... awful - rephrase please and also, the last clause of the sentence is really a non-sequitur - it isn't a logical follow-on from the Waters business.
    • "denotes releases that did not chart or weren't released in that country." rephrase and avoid contractions. Right now, it reads "denotes releases that... weren't released in that country" - releases that weren't released... reads peculiar to me.
    • US or U.S.?
    • Odd formatting in IE7 on the col headings for US/UK for the Soundtracks table.
    • Ref 39 is not specific.
    • What makes the following reliable sources please?
      • ourworld.compuserve.com.
      • brain-damage.co.uk/.
      • Clipland
      • neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk
      • weshow.com
    • Be consistent - is allmusic a work or a publisher? Compare refs 1 & 44. Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Opening sentence could do with being combined with the second. This is the article about their discography, and so that should be mentioned first. Done
  • "This list does not include material performed by members of Sigma 6." Well why would it? Who are they to Pink Floyd? Done
  • Try to reduce the commas in the second paragraph's opening sentence. Done
  • "After Barrett's departure, the band released Ummagumma the album was released as a double disc," looks like it should be two sentences, perhaps? Done
  • "the first disc was contained songs performed live the other disc contained the new studio recorded songs." ? Done
  • "songs. singer and bass player" New sentences begin with a Capital Letter Done
  • The lead mentions the albums very well, but it should introduce the entire article. There is nothing relating to singles, videos, etc. What was their first single? Which got to number 1 first? What's their most successful, for example
  • Ummagumma should be in itallics Done
  • 26 B-sides perhaps, but WP discogs don't include B-sides because they're not releases, just tracks. Done
  • Ummagumma should probably be included in the tables only once. Either studio albums or live albums, but not both, Done
  • You have labels for UK and US. What about all the other countries that you give chart release information about? Stick with just the label from their home country. Done
  • "The Committee: Label: ?" What does the question mark mean? If it's unknown, then perhaps the list is incomplete. Done
  • "London '66-'67" WP:DASH. Done
  • Use letters from the Latin or Greek alphabet for footnotes, instead of I and IIHow do you do that? done.
  • Footnote I should probably be moved to the "Album" columnWhat do you mean? Done.
  • Footnote II should be moved to the UK chart position columnWhat do you mean? Done.
  • Pink Floyd The Wall doesn't appear to be a video album, rather a musical movie. Done
  • The Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett Story is a documentary film Done
  • As is The Making of The Dark Side of the Moon Done

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 00:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Where possible, pipe link to the name of the Record chart, instead of just the country.Think i did it  Done
  • Tonite Let's All Make Love in London and Zabriskie Point are not Pink Floyd soundtracks. They just happen to feature songs from them. Done
  • There is one dablink in the article Donethink i did it?
  • "See For Miles" should be "See for Miles"  Done

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 16:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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