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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Scorpion0422 01:14, 29 September 2008 [1].

State highways in Hamilton County, New York[edit]

This list, although it isn't "list of", still doesn't disclude nomination, as it is more of a summary rather than a normal article. The article summarizes all 5 state-maintained highways in Hamilton County, New York, and although it uses only 13 references, every fact in the article is cited. I am open to any comments and or improvements. Thanks!Mitch32(UP) 20:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Looks pretty good, love the intersections table. ~~ ĈĠ ☺ Simple? 22:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments This is a perfect example of an exception to the "10-item rule".
    • I think you're forcing the boldface here, just lose it
      • Removed.
    • After "New York State Route 30", add "NY 30" in parentheses; same with "NY 8".
      • Done.
        • I meant add them in the first instance, i.e. in the lead.--Crzycheetah 01:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The second paragraph has just one sentence, so either expand/merge.
      • Changed.
    • Isn't the "county" column redundant here? The title states clearly that we are going to read about highways in Hamilton County, so why are we mentioning it over and over?
      • Something in the template I cannot fix.
        • Why are you using a template for such a short table?--Crzycheetah 01:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • What does the blue-ish color indicate?
      • Overlap between routes. That's used in all road articles.
    • There's already a link to the Hamilton County in the lead, why do you have it in the see also section, as well?
      • Removed.
    • The current ref #6 states "PDF", but there is no pdf file in that citation.

--Crzycheetah 07:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replies and dones mentioned.Mitch32(UP) 22:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I'm sorry, but I think this should be expanded to cover all highways in the county, a la List of highways in Warren County, New York. The only reason I can think of that might have led to the exclusion of the US/Interstate/County routes is because it is less effort to exclude them, but I feel this leaves the article much weaker than it could (if not should) be - rst20xx (talk) 20:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This cannot happen. Reasons being, there are NO interstates, U.S. Routes or reference routes in Hamilton County. Other than the 5 (6) state routes I've mentioned, there is a very limited CR system and that can be covered in County routes in Hamilton County, New York. So this is a better format to keep it in rather than having a bad condition list.Mitch32(UP) 22:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well then, surely just adding the limited county routes, a la the sections here and here, would be all that's needed for you to be able to turn this into a general "List of" article? I don't see what's wrong with having both things in one article - rst20xx (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because its crap, and makes the article off topic - and btw - I hate the "list of" header. Your example, in my opinion, is crap as well, and I'd perfer keeping County Routes out of it.Mitch32(UP) 22:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...see also here - rst20xx (talk) 23:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose

  • "Map locating where Hamilton County is in New York" - I'd prefer something neater like "Map showing location of Hamilton County within New York state"
Fixed.
  • "The five state highways travel the more rural parts of Hamilton County ..." little bit WP:ORish...
Fixed.
  • What does blue represent? And pay heed to WP:MOS#COLORS, don't use only colours to indicate a particular property.\
This a USRD thing brought up in the past. Consensus is to keep them.
  • I'd prefer the columns of each table to be the same from section to section...
They are the same.
  • Confused between the Location vs Mile in table NY 8 v table NY 10... I think you're a column off somehow...
Tried something and forgot fix it.
  • "continue farther than its " further?
Fixed
  • "[13][8][11]" I'd prefer numerical order if there's no good reason not to..
Changed.
  • Table NY 30 relinks NY 8 and NY 28 but not NY 30 - be consistent with relinking throughout these tables, either link it every time or just the first time and never again, at least in the same section.
Changed.
  • "Herkimer[15], " move ref to the other side of the comma.
Done.
  • Not particularly overwhelmed by all those external links - is there a more generic link you could add instead?
Done.

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:58, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments below each post.Mitch32(UP) 17:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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