Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame/archive2

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was Kept by Giants2008 22:29, 24 March 2013‎ [1].

List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame[edit]

Notified: Halophile, WikiProject National Football League, WikiProject Green Bay Packers

I am nominating this for featured list removal because it's currently just a redirect, its content having been merged into List of National Football Conference North Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees by User:Halophile a couple of months back. I don't know anything about the history of the move, or whether there was consensus to do so, but in any case, right now we cannot have a redirect as a featured list (and the target list is very poor indeed). The Rambling Man (talk) 17:50, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Halophile didn't seek any disucssion at all before merging, doing it after only 17 hours of the tag being added. I'm personally very much against featured pages being deleted or merged, absent serious legal issues, without review or at least proper notification. There was no notification I can see to WP:NFL nor the primary contributors to this list, so I suggest reverting to last stable and retaining if there are no other issues. Sceptre ^(talk) 19:42, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I can't find where this merge of an FL had consensus. Unless somebody other than Halophile supported this, it should be reverted back to the way it was. By the way, as an NFL fan, nobody I know of groups Hall of Famers by the division(s) they played in. The same user made other similar lists that may have to be dealt with too. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:11, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Without prejudice to the idea of having a single list of all Hall of Fame inductees, this merge was not well executed. Less than 17 hours ensued between the proposed merge notice and the execution of the merge. That's not good practice. To establish attribution of the merged article content, you have to look through its history to spot where the merge happened and then trace that article's contribution history. There's a template {{Copied}} to do the attribution properly, and failing to use it is more poor practice. Finally, and most damning, the Featured List's 35 citations have been gutted down to a single reference. As it stands at present, the encyclopedia would be improved by restoring List of Green Bay Packers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame to the version of 26 May 2011. --RexxS (talk) 21:21, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment it is worth noting that the merger of items like this is entirely outside the scope of the featured list process. Unfortunately. All we can do is assess the status quo. Hence why I have notified a couple of relevant projects. I know it sounds bureaucratic but all we can do right here, right now, is assess the list against the criteria. If someone is prepared (outside this process) to restore the list to its pre-piss-poor "merge" then I'm all up for that. But we can't decide on doing that here. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:01, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note also that User:Halophile who made the unilateral merge/move/fail has removed the post on his talk page regarding this discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Hello all. It has been a while since I have been here, but as the person who brought the list to FL status way back when, I figured I could say something. I disagree with the moves that the user in question made, especially in regard to this featured list. I also agree with the above user that dividing the teams within their divisions makes no sense, and there should either be one big list for the NFL or lists for each team (which I support). Although I understand what TRM means when he says that this is probably not the best venue for this discussion, I do think that the most important thing is that we get it right and do what's best for the project. I do not think that we should delist this list, then go resolve the move matter elsewhere, and then have to relist the article again to get it featured. I agree with Rexxs that we should revert to the version of 26 May 2011, which is what I will do. For the other articles, it will be up to you guys to deal with them :) That's my 2 cents. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:58, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per my previous (just to make it official :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:50, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the merge made no sense to me. This lists should be done by team. Now that the list has been restored and updated with the 2013 inductee, I believe that it meets FL criteria. Royal broil 01:08, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep common sense has prevailed. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:44, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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