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I've listed this article for peer review because I truly believe the primary contributor of this article, Dragfyre, has done an excellent job of research in this particular field in order to produce a well-written and referenced article. I want to see what I can do and how far I can take this article (FA, I hope!). Any comments will be warmly welcomed.

Thanks, Sp33dyphil (TC • I love Wikipedia!) 06:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Chipmunkdavis
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Beautiful little article. Definitely no longer stub-class!

History
  • "the latter being a refurbishment of an older narrow gauge line running from Phu Lang Thuong to Lang Son." This railway appears out of nowhere. Considering the paragraph before dealt with the first ever raillines, it is strange that the second discusses the refurbishment of older lines.
  • "Paul Doumer Bridge (now known as Long Bien Bridge)" appears in both the text and the picture caption, and could probably be removed from one (the caption doesn't really need it). Additionally, if the date for the picture is known, it should be placed in the caption.
  • "The construction of the Yunnan line was not without controversy, nor without consequences; over 25,000 workers, both Vietnamese and Chinese, died working on the line." Not a very encyclopaedic tone, maybe it is better to simply state there was controversy and the death figures.
  • "Chinese railway engineering troops" Were these PRC troops?
  • "significantly increasing shipping capacity; as well, a third rail was added to the existing lines" Remove the "as well", make the whole thing two separate sentences.
  • "effectively converting them from to mixed gauge lines." Is the "from" there in error?
  • The history section ends with reunification with a slight note of the Sino-Vietnam war. If a little bit more on the past couple of decades is added, it will be extremely solid.
Network
  • "most of which are located along the North-South line" Is it possible to get a figure?
  • "would permit new international railway links" I'm not sure permit is the right word there.
  • In the current lines table it may be worth placing a footnote stating information is missing. I'm most confused by the question mark after Meter Gague in the Pho Lu–Xuan Giao entry. Is it is unknown, it should be ?? like other boxes.
  • In defunct lines, dates of construction would be useful for incomplete lines, possibly placed in notes.
  • "the line is the only main line in China using metre gauge, (or dual gauge, since it can also be converted to standard gauge)" This needs to be clarified. Metre or dual?
    • "only main line in China using metre gauge" is from Yunnan–Vietnam Railway, added by a previous contributor. This needs further research to clarify, but from what I've read in different places, the section of the line in the PRC still exists in metre gauge and is currently out of service, but is scheduled for conversion into a mixed-gauge line. Anyone who has further information, please feel free to add useful references. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 10:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in the 1930s, to be connected to Cambodia;" To be connected to Cambodia seems redundant
High speed railway
Subways and light rail
  • "including a rapid transit system including five routes." " including a rapid transit system with five routes" or something similar would be better than repeating "including"
Infrastructure
  • "despite temporary restoration following the war" Temporary restoration?
    • Meaning, a low-quality, makeshift restoration to get it up and running quickly, requiring a more complete restoration later on. I agree it's a confusing turn of phrase. Update: I've changed this to "despite their restoration following the war" for now, until I can think of a better way to say it.  Done --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 10:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A Vietnam Railways train enters a tunnel north of Quy Nhon." Passes through may be more accurate than enters, as the video covers the entire tunnel.
Railway management
  • In its current state needs to be broken up into a couple of paragraphs
  • This section seems to be mostly history (move to history section?) and there is little else about railway management not mentioned elsewhere. The section would be improved by an expansion on information about the company that manages it. This also seems to be a useful section to expand on foreign investment and help, as it seems countries such as Japan are interested, along with possibly information about any ASEAN cooperation.
  • The main article listed, Vietnam Railways, seems to be a duplication of this article. Merge or remake, but don't list as a main in its current form.
See also
  • Two of the See also's are mentioned in the article. It might be good to link to articles about any other companies, or similar projects such as tram lines.

Overall, a good article. It may be worth running through prose, as there are a lot of long sentences that have been created through the use of semi-colons that may be better written if split up into multiple sentences. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 16:37, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great observations. I've added a few of my own observations, and as long as I can make the time, I'm definitely be available to help further develop this article. --dragfyre_ʞןɐʇc 10:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]