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Please explain the reasons for not accepting my article[edit]
Kindly explain the reasons for not accepting my articles so that i can edit it and resubmit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.176.122.197 (talk) 07:45, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is the first ever edit from your IP address. Could you link to the submission in question? Someguy1221 (talk) 07:51, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Article draft without copyrighted text
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Books released: 1. Austin Tortle and the inviting mirror(2008) by Durbar Kalam Publication, Kolkata
2. Austin Tortle and the hitting shadow (2010) by Durbar Kalam Publication, Kolkata In Pipeline: 1. TRICK-O-MANIA(2013)-tricks & tips to hack system softwares
AS a Writer,Producer and Actor: 1. F.A.I.L( Find & Amend Inner Lackings)- a documentary on suicide cases (2013) Gopal is currently studying in Sathyabama University,Chennai where he is pursuing the degree of BE(Computer Science,IIIrd yr)
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Gopal S Krishna223.177.244.128 (talk) 11:43, 23 October 2012 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gopal S Krishna
- That was a copy of your draft, which is currently not submitted for review. What exactly do you need help with?
- There are several problems with the draft. First of all, if you are Gopal S Krishna, as your signature suggests, you may want to read our guideline on coflicts of interest. Writing an autobiography is strongly discouraged.
- Secondly, the draft's text was copied almost verbatim from the author's website. That's a copyright violation and not acceptable for Wikipedia. I'll thus nomiate your draft for speedy deletion. It's possible for the author to release the copyrighted text under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and then use it on Wikipedia (see WP:Requesting copyright permission), but it's not worth the effort.
- Wikipedia content must be based on reliable sources that are independent of the subject, such as newspaper articles. We need significant coverage in such sources both to establish a topic's notability and to allow our readers to verify the article's content. None of the current sources satisfy those criteria - none but the author's website even mention Krishna. We'd need entirely new sources and would have to rewrite all of the draft based on those new sources. Huon (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Referencing[edit]
Hi! I submitted an article for review yesterday, and today it was declined. The reviewer said that it could not become an article because it had no references. My draft is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Clue jr.:The case of the missing cake. My question is this, how did Clue Jr.: Case of the Missing Pet become an article without any references. Thanks, B. Jakob T. (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- All articles on Wikipedia must be on notable subjects, and must be verifiable, usually by reliable sources. If your article has no sources, it will not generally be passed. Regarding the other version of the board game, the state of other articles is irrelevant - currently that article is tagged as {{unreferenced}} and could be sent to Articles for Deletion at any time. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Writing articles[edit]
Matt Dillahunty, Jen McRieght, and PZ Myers were talking to me about why they all have Wikipedia articles. They don't know, but they're out there. They also asked why I do not have a Wiki article -other than the ones on Rational Wiki and Conservapedia. I don't know that either. Someone claiming to represent Wikipedia contacted me a year or so ago asking for $300.00 to write an article for me, but I doubt very much whether that is the way these are actually created. So what prompts a Wikipedia article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.134.2.62 (talk) 17:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure "Wikipedia representatives" don't write articles for money. Some people apparently are editors-for-hire, but the organisation behind Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation, has no such program (and they certainly don't cold call people with such offers).
- Wikipedia is mostly a volunteer effort, and articles are written if someone is interested enough in a topic and knows enough about it to write an article based on reliable sources from a neutral point of view that establishes the subject's notability. I'm not surprised that Matt Dillahunty, Jey McCreight and PZ Myers have enough of a fanclub that someone would write articles about them, though per our policy on people notable for one event only McCreight just has a redirect to Boobquake.
- One word of caution: Writing an autobiography is not strictly forbidden, but it's strongly discouraged because of the obvious conflict of interest. Huon (talk) 18:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I attached a photograph in the articleWikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Henry Heydenryk, Jr.. The article is still up for review. There is a notice that the photograph will be deleted by Friday, October 26, 2012. Why?Henry Heydenryk, Jr. (talk) 20:52, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- This is because the image is non-free. Images on Wikipedia are really only acceptable if there is a licence to be able to freely distribute and modify them, including for commercial purposes, and any other images should be avoided. There are very tight restrictions on where non-free images are allowed, which is generally one per infobox on articles that have passed the Articles for creation review process. I have asked the editor who tagged your image to give you their opinion in this thread. --Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Ritchie333 is correct. Wikipedia's policy concerning non-free content is strict, and part of it requires that such content not be used outside of actual articles, which means that it can be replaced if/when the submission is processed and approved but not before then. If the review isn't completed by Friday then the image will be deleted, but as soon as the article has passed the review process then any admin (including me) can and should restore and replace the image.
- All that said, if the copyright holder (which is usually the photographer and not the subject of the photograph) is willing to release the image under a free license by following the steps at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials then the image could be immediately restored to the submission and used anywhere on Wikipedia without any further such restrictions on its use. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Am I able to upload images for inclusion on the article I'm creating for Western Economic Association International before the article is live? I tried going through the image upload form but it seemed to require an active page to complete the process. Or is my draft considered an active page while I'm working on it? I'm new to all this, can you tell? Jbarie (talk) 20:50, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on file uploading, but if the image is copyrighted and to be used under fair use, Wikipedia's policy on non-free content indeed requires an article to use it, not just a draft. If the image comes with a free license, you can upload it to the Wikimedia Commons via their Upload Wizard and don't need to bother with an active article.
- The draft's main problem, however, is not the lack of an image, but of reliable sources that are independent of the subject. We need significant coverage in such sources, both to establish the society's notability and to allow our readers to verify the draft's content. Many of the current sources are primary sources such as the association's own homepage or articles about the association published in its own journal (though the latter are better than the website). Huon (talk) 06:27, 24 October 2012 (UTC)