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Why was my submission declined again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karin Phan (talk • contribs) 12:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for sharing your link after my submission was declined. I wonder if you could share your thoughts on exactly why it was declined.
My submission was originally declined before Christmas because I had used the same copy from the musician's website and I understand this was wrong. This time I went to a lot of trouble to highlight why it was I think this artist should have a listing on Wikipedia. However, I am told Aidan O'Rourke is not a notable musician. Here are my thoughts on this...
- Aidan O'Rourke is in the band Lau with Kris Drever. Lau and Drever both have entries on Wikipedia. How can these be notable and not O'Rourke?
- Lau have won four BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards in five years and are nominated for a fifth this year. Is this not notable enough?
- O'Rourke won Instrumentalist of the year at the Scottish Traditional Music Awards in 2006
- He has released three acclaimed solo albums
- He has toured from the UK to Australia and Japan with Lau, Kan and as a solo artist
- He is an in-demand teacher of the fiddle
I believe all of this is covered in the entry I submitted and does make him a notable artist. If you can offer any ideas how I can can my entry approved I'd be very grateful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simplymarvellous (talk • contribs) 13:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- This may seem a little pedantic and weasilish but the decline reason given was: "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability". I mean it's deliberately broad because notability is a judgement call and assessors are human. What it says is that notability has not been proved by referencing. The golden rule is "Articles require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The two links given are neither reliable sources that are independent of the subject. You can't just claim he is notable and only give his website and the website of his associates as proof, you need to show it with links to reliable sources talking about him and his achievements.
- In short, if Aidan is as acclaimed as you claim, please can we have some coverage showing it? Rankersbo (talk) 13:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
References for a company[edit]
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tactical Air Support, Inc. (TacAir)
Are these references unacceptable because they link to TacAir's website, or is it because they are news articles?
How many references are preferred for this to be approved?
How can one prove notability of a corporation? What additional sources can you suggest, please? We have news blurbs but they are written by ex-military gentlemen associated with the company in question.
Ostglobalsolutions (talk) 16:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- The notability requirements for companies are detailed at WP:COMPANY. Note that for an article to be alloqwed to stay, it must follow the Golden Rule. -- Alexf(talk) 16:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- The way the references are presented may be causing confusion. The NNBW piece was presumably first published in the NNBW, and is merely archived on TacAir's own website. So, it would be better to cite the original publication. That way it's clear to the reviewer what is being cited. I'm assuming the other two references currently provided are similar. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Is this ever likely to leave 'non-notable' status? I can find plenty of sources, but again they will be of a similar type of source, more franchise websites.
Thebrighcli (talk) 16:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Thebrighcli. If nobody other than those financiall involved with the company find it worth writing about, then by definition it does not yet meet Notablilty. See WP:42:
Articles require significant coverage
in reliable sources
MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Where can I get feedback on my article to make sure I’m abiding by Wiki standards and advice on making the content more presentable/compelling?
BrandonPindulic (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)Brandon
- I've put some links on your talk page. Hope this helps! Rankersbo (talk) 16:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi! My post here has been rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Emma_Johnson_(writer)
I was hoping you could offer some suggestions to get it through?
Thanks!
Gonnabefamous (talk) 20:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
I need help. I have submitted an article for creation about a contemporary artist but it has gotten rejected twice. The article has plenty of citations to authoritative sources, including the New York Times and the Museum of Modern Art in New York city. So, I am a bit stymied. What more can I do about the article? The article is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Albenda, Ricci. Thanks! Ngeorgak (talk) 21:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
- I happened to have reviewed and accepted it before I saw this question, you can now find it at Ricci Albenda. Thanks for the new article. BTW you included some critical comment quotes from one source (the New York Times) but it would be an improvement to add some more criticism from a wider variety of sources. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)